From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <slashdevnull@hotmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB111937 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 01:01:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from BLU004-OMC4S27.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s27.hotmail.com [65.55.111.166]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E6C516D for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 01:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU436-SMTP201 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S27.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:01:06 -0700 X-TMN: [8S8hKDpRHuiKZiS1oQSQHksr6CfXaMVv] X-Originating-Email: [slashdevnull@hotmail.com] Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP2011C819BE5E8272FEB1959C6660@phx.gbl> User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.9.150325 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:00:50 +0800 From: GC <slashdevnull@hotmail.com> To: Jorge =?ISO-8859-1?B?VGlt824=?= <jtimon@jtimon.cc>, Eric Voskuil <eric@voskuil.org>, Dark Wallet <genjix@riseup.net> Thread-Topic: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork References: <CALqxMTFkgGx0FxMiZ77inOZSs_+TQ88Wpj-q-c12COkO9tP4gQ@mail.gmail.com> <CADJgMzv+cKPY9wrAzbk5pgQJS0=R9KWu-+EuppM=nmXs8RHxYg@mail.gmail.com> <20150819182010.GB12306@muck> <CADJgMzskK9iNoRzVr0BtK+XH-x2w5mGZtBiieQpwcGevnHRjGg@mail.gmail.com> <55D4D9C3.5070004@riseup.net> <C47D37EE-AE42-4175-AD6B-F6FD0841287B@gmail.com> <CABm2gDpAOQim63Q7r9r-Pv-K+FqizgDHNUmQ7uheGMuMt-e2QA@mail.gmail.com> <E3D72CF4-3D1C-4235-87F9-A035AFF28C27@gmail.com> <CABm2gDrefdHeYWF2y_o7A9NxRssC=ddHqY--ExxLv00TS4ShKQ@mail.gmail.com> <55D50C15.9020402@voskuil.org> <CABm2gDpzAL9Rci8m60ruhHeDXx3gvGgPHMbupZKUZA1wys-AiQ@mail.gmail.com> <CABm2gDoP_YM3eh5ft=RxV3=ck5foCWhdWG5dDNDaVjV0q2aq9A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CABm2gDoP_YM3eh5ft=RxV3=ck5foCWhdWG5dDNDaVjV0q2aq9A@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2015 01:01:05.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1110B60:01D0DAE3] X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, Libbitcoin <libbitcoin@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 01:01:08 -0000 Can this anecdote and similar be removed from the mailing list. Possibly one of the reddits is a better place for this kind of thing. On 20/8/15 7:56 am, "Jorge Tim=F3n via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >By the way, now that I remember why I subscribed to the libbitcoin >list I want to share it with you. >I met Amir Taaki in person in a spanish hackmeeting and had the chance >to talk a lot with him, very interesting person whose input in this >blocksize matter I would greatly appreciate. He explained some of his >concerns with Bitcoin Core (Bitcoin-qt at the time) and he >specifically named 2 persons: Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen. If I >remember correctly, Hearn had recently proposed a blacklisting scheme >for Bitcoin. > >I remember I said something along the lines: >"Mike Hearn has certainly proposed some nasty things but I don't think >other devs will ever accept that kind of changes in Bitcoin-qt. >Regarding Gavin, I believe he is someone that can be trusted even if >he visited the CIA. If anything, I think he is overly conservative >about some changes, but that's very understandable given how fragile >Bitcoin is (specially at this early stage)". > >Looking back, I now realize that his concerns were not exaggerated at >all and I was clearly wrong thinking Gavin was overly conservative. >He was also worried about the payment protocol and we agreed to >disagree there (maybe I should read all the payment protocol stuff >more deeply). > >I don't want this to be taken as an argument of authority "Mike and >Gavin cannot be trusted because Amir didn't trust them", just as a >curious anecdote. >Amir, I wouldn't like to put words in your mouth: that's why I cc'ed >you so you can correct me in case my memory is failing. >_______________________________________________ >bitcoin-dev mailing list >bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev