From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <elombrozo@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A448294E for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:48:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pd0-f169.google.com (mail-pd0-f169.google.com [209.85.192.169]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 373132B8 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdrh1 with SMTP id h1so5057378pdr.0 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=SKS64wrB/oqSXQMXBFihmPgfAEc4vSBX5oWeUCXha6g=; b=WxpFm9H9X2H6bt6yoFZRe9TzT+M5pfTGGWa/8vU8Z1IfIw+bqy3PgFufI/RacgCFbW rrtdD/hFS8usdDg+aXtD31T/czjUZtsQ5pggRqIN1KzulxxSwAs1Zcy0PGwSGTIpW4kd QawsJ4iu0OQJWCIpCHDPror0z28LvJIt7AO9Ji+HHVJHgIqK8QADWWUw8mP+lvb2LeeY Uoky55wuiwrDqbd3EqUwQzVoBwWKxbrVWRruzOX5ndGJytf+rf7TqoA2nY3OYF8ndgCI 0htqjWsVjBWxkNE/o8qEsJWfzBnd0BPJoucKXNhLysN6H18bbDF1UGhO7TyPwGmaNg+R Nn4A== X-Received: by 10.70.61.232 with SMTP id t8mr20084197pdr.124.1440013687973; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com. [76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gh5sm1750216pbc.87.2015.08.19.12.48.05 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DFC3F1B1-9C04-4B0D-BB0B-C1030CD023BE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5 From: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55D4D9C3.5070004@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:05 -0700 Message-Id: <C47D37EE-AE42-4175-AD6B-F6FD0841287B@gmail.com> References: <CALqxMTFkgGx0FxMiZ77inOZSs_+TQ88Wpj-q-c12COkO9tP4gQ@mail.gmail.com> <CADJgMzv+cKPY9wrAzbk5pgQJS0=R9KWu-+EuppM=nmXs8RHxYg@mail.gmail.com> <20150819182010.GB12306@muck> <CADJgMzskK9iNoRzVr0BtK+XH-x2w5mGZtBiieQpwcGevnHRjGg@mail.gmail.com> <55D4D9C3.5070004@riseup.net> To: odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:48:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_DFC3F1B1-9C04-4B0D-BB0B-C1030CD023BE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87" --Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Unfortunately, I think that from a PR angle, removing Gavin from commit = privileges right now will probably play into his hand. Sadly. Say what you will regarding Gavin and Mike=E2=80=99s technical merits, = they=E2=80=99ve been quite clever on the PR front. Framing this issue as = =E2=80=9Cobstructionism from the core devs=E2=80=9D and relying on the = fact that many people out there can=E2=80=99t seem to tell the = difference between a source code fork and a blockchain fork. > On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:32 PM, odinn via bitcoin-dev = <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >=20 > Signed PGP part > re. Gavin and commit access >=20 > On 08/19/2015 12:15 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> > > wrote: > >> Normal GitHub users submitting pull-reqs to Bitcoin Core can't > >> delete other users' comments on their own pull-reqs... > >> > >> IMO that's an abuse of the pull-req process, and in turn, Gavin > >> Andresens's commit access rights for the Bitcoin Core repo. > > > > For the avoidance of doubt here's the archive link of my comment > > https://archive.is/omvSY#40% (call me paranoid) and here's where he > > tells me he's censored my posts https://archive.is/vym6N#40% > > > >> I think this should weigh in favor of Gavin Andresen not having > >> commit privileges for the Bitcoin Core repository. > > > > It's time. >=20 > I agree, fwiw. If he's going to censor others then that's > inconsistent with the responsibility of having commit access. >=20 > > _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing > > list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > >=20 > -- > http://abis.io ~ > "a protocol concept to enable decentralization > and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" > https://keybase.io/odinn >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev --Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D"">Unfortunately, I think that from a PR angle, removing Gavin = from commit privileges right now will probably play into his hand. = Sadly.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Say what you = will regarding Gavin and Mike=E2=80=99s technical merits, they=E2=80=99ve = been quite clever on the PR front. Framing this issue as = =E2=80=9Cobstructionism from the core devs=E2=80=9D and relying on the = fact that many people out there can=E2=80=99t seem to tell the = difference between a source code fork and a blockchain fork.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:32 PM, = odinn via bitcoin-dev <<a = href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" = class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><fieldset = style=3D"padding-top:10px; border:0px; border: 3px solid #CCC; = padding-left: 20px;" class=3D""><legend style=3D"font-weight:bold" = class=3D"">Signed PGP part</legend><div style=3D"padding-left:3px;" = class=3D"">re. Gavin and commit access<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On = 08/19/2015 12:15 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br class=3D"">> = On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Peter Todd <<a = href=3D"mailto:pete@petertodd.org" = class=3D"">pete@petertodd.org</a>><br class=3D"">> wrote:<br = class=3D"">>> Normal GitHub users submitting pull-reqs to Bitcoin = Core can't<br class=3D"">>> delete other users' comments on their = own pull-reqs...<br class=3D"">>><br class=3D"">>> IMO = that's an abuse of the pull-req process, and in turn, Gavin<br = class=3D"">>> Andresens's commit access rights for the Bitcoin = Core repo.<br class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> For the avoidance of = doubt here's the archive link of my comment<br class=3D"">> <a = href=3D"https://archive.is/omvSY#40%" = class=3D"">https://archive.is/omvSY#40%</a> (call me paranoid) and = here's where he<br class=3D"">> tells me he's censored my posts <a = href=3D"https://archive.is/vym6N#40%" = class=3D"">https://archive.is/vym6N#40%</a><br class=3D"">><br = class=3D"">>> I think this should weigh in favor of Gavin Andresen = not having<br class=3D"">>> commit privileges for the Bitcoin Core = repository.<br class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> It's time.<br = class=3D""><br class=3D"">I agree, fwiw.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span> If he's going to censor = others then that's<br class=3D"">inconsistent with the responsibility of = having commit access.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">> = _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing<br = class=3D"">> list <a = href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" = class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br class=3D"">> = <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev"= = class=3D"">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev<= /a><br class=3D"">><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">--<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://abis.io" class=3D"">http://abis.io</a> ~<br class=3D"">"a = protocol concept to enable decentralization<br class=3D"">and expansion = of a giving economy, and a new social good"<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"https://keybase.io/odinn" = class=3D"">https://keybase.io/odinn</a></div></fieldset><br = class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br = class=3D"">bitcoin-dev mailing list<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" = class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br = class=3D"">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev<= br class=3D""></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87-- --Apple-Mail=_DFC3F1B1-9C04-4B0D-BB0B-C1030CD023BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV1N11AAoJEJNAI64YFENUBXAQALB23F+6DXSJVgdLq2gghX8D H0xrj6FfNl1/x00iPTUGL77FLHs4h9DAJXVq0a92ftG3DvNB2OZ6Vj7/U0CCtg9s 05OVz/lYhdCDWAi61e/Q9TuHhZw6LArEZXdi5U7LWTivygGWmBq5xQlTGpeTglLN Oqr+esvyn0IMRUpsAUOfodAVgbLHb8ax0LHgRQFxJfee8tjAgRMAQvx0835fHGLp IbC0+xxve8p0I4gY8+SGphzTgwLWlggmbLmnR0OQS0YRdLQ2ZscxOcWlbodmw0wG 3iBOVkQL7VWiwdFc4PFcz3RZyMs8QljcikUHz8eroJ9RGiEddCei3qQDb3eFVuFO vJ2YsPw+08wUVq/LZFiaBmdxY6WD5o1zSUWkODexVqVZQFVDrFFR6jHW+gZ8q22b fnWSIYJcwvF80e4mxNflZMRMt4z30NJbW+TZ8rsfbeAhdMH+M6aRFVrqx6DB/gHA LJPAF3q7oHzTwbCHXcLi6vhtBoRp+QcpfncDoT7cgdGYtQeYlG/sypi91UPNOLtI K3IXfUxFq1xQAMMuAl4mZB4DxgI9craVcmnFpURvRIGurAxdRx386ItwPd9P7VoV peoLVM4ETn3ClLnMm5Qcdwdi0sFc80247wmCuSm+D1H9Vl4bHK97akKtC+LK1F9m z4iGmORMkc2xPh1F/tar =6ZOL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_DFC3F1B1-9C04-4B0D-BB0B-C1030CD023BE--