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[76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gh5sm1750216pbc.87.2015.08.19.12.48.05 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DFC3F1B1-9C04-4B0D-BB0B-C1030CD023BE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5 From: Eric Lombrozo In-Reply-To: <55D4D9C3.5070004@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:05 -0700 Message-Id: References: <20150819182010.GB12306@muck> <55D4D9C3.5070004@riseup.net> To: odinn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:48:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_DFC3F1B1-9C04-4B0D-BB0B-C1030CD023BE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87" --Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Unfortunately, I think that from a PR angle, removing Gavin from commit = privileges right now will probably play into his hand. Sadly. Say what you will regarding Gavin and Mike=E2=80=99s technical merits, = they=E2=80=99ve been quite clever on the PR front. Framing this issue as = =E2=80=9Cobstructionism from the core devs=E2=80=9D and relying on the = fact that many people out there can=E2=80=99t seem to tell the = difference between a source code fork and a blockchain fork. > On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:32 PM, odinn via bitcoin-dev = wrote: >=20 > Signed PGP part > re. Gavin and commit access >=20 > On 08/19/2015 12:15 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Peter Todd > > wrote: > >> Normal GitHub users submitting pull-reqs to Bitcoin Core can't > >> delete other users' comments on their own pull-reqs... > >> > >> IMO that's an abuse of the pull-req process, and in turn, Gavin > >> Andresens's commit access rights for the Bitcoin Core repo. > > > > For the avoidance of doubt here's the archive link of my comment > > https://archive.is/omvSY#40% (call me paranoid) and here's where he > > tells me he's censored my posts https://archive.is/vym6N#40% > > > >> I think this should weigh in favor of Gavin Andresen not having > >> commit privileges for the Bitcoin Core repository. > > > > It's time. >=20 > I agree, fwiw. If he's going to censor others then that's > inconsistent with the responsibility of having commit access. >=20 > > _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing > > list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > >=20 > -- > http://abis.io ~ > "a protocol concept to enable decentralization > and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" > https://keybase.io/odinn >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev --Apple-Mail=_1C5E6176-1ABF-49FB-8D12-EB013581DC87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Unfortunately, I think that from a PR angle, removing Gavin = from commit privileges right now will probably play into his hand. = Sadly.

Say what you = will regarding Gavin and Mike=E2=80=99s technical merits, they=E2=80=99ve = been quite clever on the PR front. Framing this issue as = =E2=80=9Cobstructionism from the core devs=E2=80=9D and relying on the = fact that many people out there can=E2=80=99t seem to tell the = difference between a source code fork and a blockchain fork.



On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:32 PM, = odinn via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

Signed PGP part
re. Gavin and commit access

On = 08/19/2015 12:15 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> = On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
> wrote:
>> Normal GitHub users submitting pull-reqs to Bitcoin = Core can't
>> delete other users' comments on their = own pull-reqs...
>>
>> IMO = that's an abuse of the pull-req process, and in turn, Gavin
>> Andresens's commit access rights for the Bitcoin = Core repo.
>
> For the avoidance of = doubt here's the archive link of my comment
> https://archive.is/omvSY#40% (call me paranoid) and = here's where he
> tells me he's censored my posts https://archive.is/vym6N#40%
>
>> I think this should weigh in favor of Gavin Andresen = not having
>> commit privileges for the Bitcoin Core = repository.
>
> It's time.

I agree, fwiw.  If he's going to censor = others then that's
inconsistent with the responsibility of = having commit access.

> = _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing
> list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> = https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev<= /a>
>

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and expansion = of a giving economy, and a new social good"
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