From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UF6N7-0001ll-QX for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:18:49 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com ([209.85.160.53]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UF6N6-0005dg-H5 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:18:49 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id un1so3968556pbc.26 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=w7EZTuSIgkcRKcMc1Ylp4Wf76WrIQaspiCZsB/SGe+k=; b=W/t/nYlSvlrrpr+Qt5Pl8gqbSuJNxBXUFxyMJclqlRyGSLIQcqsIKsZAklB9TOHIwQ ZHUFCD2d4DkTgiDo8yG5jFGpyRhqFEoAjVITWNSWDLbZpKwVxlAfbWDv0eCt1ku9KGSE Tc2iZPxygpSNn5YmEd5KpLDxe4b5wjcWgqzoogHeQXT53/ktw4+SqI/a/fRA49KtjhTm jhHdCeIC72u6kU6XBTInsrzxhtuzgGJFUTV3/NVBrp5huFDS1wt18E43g2/b1tz+8AjN NrdPeucDBD8C1CjHQivkDgXiaBqrkULeJzl4C1g2KgL/Emvab4A2Yww2HHfHIke9aXG1 SiJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.58.3 with SMTP id m3mr30843505pbq.69.1363022322041; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.146.133 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2001:4830:1603:2:21c:c0ff:fe79:c8c2] In-Reply-To: References: <20130310043155.GA20020@savin> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 13:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jeff Garzik To: Gavin Andresen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmIbXFab95ql53DHiMc6HjGz46py86gdPl8mvTNP6HNzHdQ43LZ/EHWzBzJt6L1uX2ximfO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1UF6N6-0005dg-H5 Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Blocking uneconomical UTXO creation X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:18:50 -0000 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Gavin Andresen wrote: >> Just activate a non-proportional demurrage > > demurrage of any kind will never, ever happen, just give up on that idea. > > The negative publicity of "the bitcoin developers are destroying YOUR > coins!" would be devastating. While 100% agreed, I do think there is space in the alt-currency world for a well-done coin THAT IS NOT BITCOIN (i.e. merge-mined or whatever) with a finite lifespan. Call it "tempcoin" For example: any coin older than (144 * 365 * 4) blocks may be reclaimed by a miner. Even though, sadly, many of the alt-coins have been pre-mined scams, the alt-coin concept in general is great for experimenting. If the idea can be proven in the field without modifying mainnet bitcoind, then perhaps it should go onto the mainnet hard fork wishlist, many years in the future. That's the great thing about open source. People can experiment with these ideas, and bitcoin.git need not change at all :) -- Jeff Garzik exMULTI, Inc. jgarzik@exmulti.com