From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UPa2y-0006QE-KZ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:01:20 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.220.175]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UPa2t-0002tM-0U for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:01:19 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ha12so273537vcb.6 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cWFfBV0mBvCjlmems8L7VIf1t3dx18quMyPwRpTmP2E=; b=g1njwZzknxbXxb4u7uLacEgKTTB84MCVkBGisEKjEuJNg+I0IO6Ih3FaDYqJUDdVLK G2DiVuJsRsZe4ptuDqTbmoQNXO6nE1KsEo0UNUvu8PmbCnagNaTu/6Hlnfp0m+grObJW f5/XIia2n8Y8Y7QdXZ6XSpNcERximfbuFdVdOzcIFTQlqrgSeSo3FW696NAS0zMWHY1I K6yMvagj4NR6E7nHd91HIqtMthMK5hUxqMOb7pNa4K/4Wf2A+OWZmzCyC89esnJgqven vgE2Ngk4/oO31ycEXFOaoDuxVsaC8n6cKXpzYPVYeNE+QBL0mrkkTNeGYscRGzG147A/ tAjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.28.196 with SMTP id d4mr4643625vdh.56.1365519669337; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.169.109 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [99.43.178.25] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:01:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jeff Garzik To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm7tT/wNt4NGN8Xt0qiDDqdHVrmkwU+LeEASOio2ms4yymE3ycE4K7vS7RiwcVPsTF+IoLs X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1UPa2t-0002tM-0U Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] On-going data spam X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:01:20 -0000 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: >> However, there should be some metrics and heuristics that take care of >> this problem. Notably the dev consensus (sans you, Mike :)) seems to >> be that uneconomical outputs should be made non-standard. > I think that patch is ok as it doesn't really have any fixed concept of what > is uneconomical. But I haven't thought about it much. As Gavin says, there's > an obvious backwards compatibility problem there. It should probably wait > until the payment protocol work is done, so the major user of > micropayments-as-messages can migrate off them. "wait" is only an option if there is an alternate solution already coded and ready for 0.8.2. -- Jeff Garzik exMULTI, Inc. jgarzik@exmulti.com