From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UYhcn-0006gX-9l for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 04 May 2013 18:56:01 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.220.45]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UYhcm-0001U7-4k for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 04 May 2013 18:56:01 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id lj1so1434302pab.4 for ; Sat, 04 May 2013 11:55:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Bkw1UJ/m2PHMau0aA1iqCPv4NGNcYMer0dX3miOU1XU=; b=YKM5rTFYrwGwVjBi9BU2OFyDlK2arQZ5PnIvJyLx9VJ9Ehtu7hl/lmXGAzwBWtp+bO bfW22z5cXuRHah11PotaaL+9r8+nzirwM1RHXuF5p0q71gwTzw3NRG1khmOT49hPQSe5 iTU9nJjkhTZ8e09NT2y4XobrKQJF0qbn/xi+03XlQxCcvayT+GuJ3QUUvmPi8D0EzmaX yx1AbY+CV9XEoLZD72xqBes38p7jzIsgZ2x/Qm0u1HYzZwNZl4o6coPoX8UnwuKhfSpi yuy+xtqiEHxSV49QdmSym8FQh/aoU+EBVuVfGnTeDgFsvz44PSlSQSw5S3yhNWeHJofO U8iA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.36.230 with SMTP id t6mr19263041pbj.218.1367693754237; Sat, 04 May 2013 11:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.240.106 with HTTP; Sat, 4 May 2013 11:55:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [99.43.178.25] In-Reply-To: References: <20130503141801.GA1301@petertodd.org> <20130503151157.GA3902@petertodd.org> Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:55:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jeff Garzik To: John Dillon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnq84b8Hpb+rGMPyi3BdUiDJUfIMyIxeWXyJtXcIyAymenvs9/Ub0iFTcOmAdmXpcUv9JqU X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1UYhcm-0001U7-4k Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Service bits for pruned nodes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 18:56:01 -0000 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM, John Dillon wrote: > After all Peter, just like you have implemented alternate block header > distribution over twitter, in the future we should have many different means of > peer discovery. Right now we have DNS seeds, a fixed list, and IRC discovery > that does not work because the servers it was pointed too no longer exist. Not > a good place to be. Let's not confuse bootstrapping with overall peer discovery. Peer exchange between P2P nodes is the primary and best method of obtaining free peers. Obviously you need to bootstrap into that, though. DNS seed and fixed list are those bootstrap methods (IRC code was deleted), but are only used to limp along until you can contact a real P2P node, at which point peer discovery truly begins. -- Jeff Garzik exMULTI, Inc. jgarzik@exmulti.com