From: Glen Peterson <glen@organicdesign.org>
To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Upgrading PoW algorithm
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:29:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+LnoU=OoUaCwV_HrLdZUx4yHY4M0TDE45tefhF08b8PrO5VBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKaEYhJHZ_CFeqRN_QXP-SLX+AHmbRPTx+w=D3920Fc-WPq_1A@mail.gmail.com>
Popular hashing algorithms have historically managed 10-15 years of
intense use before flaws are found in the algorithm. This chart
suggests SHA-256 is already aging:
http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html
If history is any guide, any long-term cryptocurrency/blockchain will
need the cryptography updated every decade or so.
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Melvin Carvalho via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 17 January 2018 at 23:31, Jefferson Carpenter via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> Bitcoin's difficulty will be maxed out within about 400 years, by Moore's
>> law. (After that - supposing the software does not crash when difficulty
>> overflows - block time will start decreasing, and it will not take long
>> before blocks are mined faster than photons can be sent across the planet).
>>
>> Bitcoin is the dominant cryptocurrency today, as the first mover: the
>> perfectly fair worldwide game of inventing the cryptocurrency has been
>> played and won. However, unfortunately, it has a built-in end date: about
>> 400 years from now. After that, it won't necessarily be clear what the
>> dominant cryptocurrency is. It might be a lot like VHS vs Betamax, and a
>> lot of people could lose a lot of money. It seems to me, this could be
>> mitigated by planning today for what we are going to do when Bitcoin finally
>> breaks 400 years from now.
>>
>> Are there any distinct plans today for migrating to a PoW supporting an
>> even higher difficulty?
>
>
> Crypto algorithms have a lifetime, and consensus is no different.
>
> Is it likely to be more than a few years? Yes.
>
> Is likely to be less than a few hundred years. Yes.
>
> Every algorithm involves trade offs and it's the job of a thoughtful dev
> team to examine those trade offs and come to a consensus optimal solution.
>
> This field is only 9 years old, and there is a large amount of R & D in this
> area. So we can evaluate what seems to working better and what seems to be
> working worse, transfer that to BIPs, create code, test it, try to achieve
> consensus. The normal path that has served free software projects well.
>
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-17 22:31 [bitcoin-dev] Upgrading PoW algorithm Jefferson Carpenter
2018-01-18 16:36 ` Peter Todd
2018-01-19 20:54 ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-01-20 6:30 ` nullius
2018-01-20 18:36 ` Melvin Carvalho
2018-01-21 15:29 ` Glen Peterson [this message]
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