From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WW6YJ-0005XI-Hf for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:01:11 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.47; envelope-from=elarch@gmail.com; helo=mail-la0-f47.google.com; Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WW6YI-000119-Jm for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:01:11 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id pn19so2600083lab.6 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:01:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.139.166 with SMTP id qz6mr8817126lbb.13.1396627263896; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:01:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.31.165 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eric_Larchev=EAque?= Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 18:00:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c26692f2c1e204f6399fb9 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (elarch[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WW6YI-000119-Jm Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Draft BIP for seamless website authentication using Bitcoin address X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:01:11 -0000 --001a11c26692f2c1e204f6399fb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hmmm, well TREZOR requires a web plugin. So if nobody installs plugins > then we have a problem :) But regardless, actually like I said, you don't > need a plugin. Browsers do it all already. With the tag they even > create a private key and upload the public part to be signed for you, it's > seamless for the user. I wanted to give you a link to a demo site, but I > can't find it anymore :( > > If you buy a TREZOR you will of course install the plugin :) What I mean is that normal people are lazy : if the solution is already in their hand they will use it, if they need to install/configure something, they won't do it. I'm not trying to propose a solution to solve the auth on the web, but to ease the sign up / login on the Bitcoin ecosystem websites and apps. More sign ups to new services (whatever the services) = more usage = expanding ecosystem = more global value to Bitcoin Wallets are a key element of the equation because : - everyone has one (desktop or mobile) - everyone (in theory) has already taken all steps to backup and secure their keys - id yourself with a Bitcoin address often makes sense on a Bitcoin related service Eric --001a11c26692f2c1e204f6399fb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hmmm, well TREZOR requires a we= b plugin. So if nobody installs plugins then we have a problem :) But regar= dless, actually like I said, you don't need a plugin. Browsers do it al= l already. With the <keygen> tag they even create a private key and u= pload the public part to be signed for you, it's seamless for the user.= I wanted to give you a link to a demo site, but I can't find it anymor= e :(


If you buy a TREZOR you wi= ll of course install the plugin :)

What I mean is = that normal people are lazy : if the solution is already in their hand they= will use it, if they need to install/configure something, they won't d= o it.

I'm not trying to propose a solution to solve the a= uth on the web, but to ease the sign up / login on the Bitcoin ecosystem we= bsites and apps.
More sign ups to new services (whatever the serv= ices) =3D more usage =3D expanding ecosystem =3D more global value to Bitco= in

Wallets are a key element of the equation because :
- everyone has one (desktop or mobile)
- everyone (in theo= ry) has already taken all steps to backup and secure their keys
- id yourself with a Bitcoin address often makes sense on a Bitcoin related= service

Eric
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