From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Wagv6-0002f0-VQ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:39:41 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.223.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.173; envelope-from=laanwj@gmail.com; helo=mail-ie0-f173.google.com; Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com ([209.85.223.173]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Wagv4-0002CB-Te for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:39:40 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id rl12so65757iec.18 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:39:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.178.197 with SMTP id ox5mr8026284icc.22.1397720373592; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.70.131 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:39:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:39:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: Wladimir To: Gregory Maxwell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c319385d0e7f04f7382214 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (laanwj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Wagv4-0002CB-Te Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in Windows XP (or drop support?) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:39:41 -0000 --001a11c319385d0e7f04f7382214 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Bringing the thread back on-topic: > Thanks. > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Wladimir wrote: > > Hello, > > Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet > > banking with Windows XP. > > If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not > > secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they > > have no keys to protect). > > Any opinions on what to do here? > > I think eventually multi-wallet support will make it so that a wallet > won't be created by default. After the wallet split-off this will also be easier: - Bitcoin Core Node - Bitcoin Core Wallet The node would be as compatible as possible with any OS in existence, but the wallet can be more picky. > Instead users would create-wallet, which > would also give them options like using a HSM (e.g. trezor) or > multisig secured wallet. HSMs complicate this; I'm not even sure how this will work, are the Trezor guys planning to contribute support for their device to wallets including Bitcoin Core? Hopefully by that time, everyone will have forgotten about XP already :) Wladimir --001a11c319385d0e7f04f7382214 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com= > wrote:
Bringing the thread back = on-topic:

Thanks.
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet=
> banking with Windows XP.
> If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY= not
> secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as t= hey
> have no keys to protect).
> Any opinions on what to do here?

I think eventually multi-wallet support will make it so that a wallet=
won't be created by default.

After the= wallet split-off this will also be easier:

- Bitcoin Cor= e Node
- Bitcoin Core Wallet

The node would be as compatible as possible with any OS in existence, but t= he wallet can be more picky.
=C2=A0
Instead users would create-wallet, which
would also give them options like using a HSM (e.g. trezor) or
multisig secured wallet. =C2=A0

HSMs compli= cate this; I'm not even sure how this will work, are the Trezor guys pl= anning to contribute support for their device to wallets including Bitcoin = Core?

Hopefully by that time, everyone will have forgotten about X= P already :)

Wladimir

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