From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WO5mD-0004bs-GK for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:34:25 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.213.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.180; envelope-from=laanwj@gmail.com; helo=mail-ig0-f180.google.com; Received: from mail-ig0-f180.google.com ([209.85.213.180]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WO5mC-0001Gg-Qc for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:34:25 +0000 Received: by mail-ig0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hl1so2305041igb.1 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:34:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.225.134 with SMTP id rk6mr1855741igc.31.1394717659460; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.27.34 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:34:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <52852C2D.9020103@gmail.com> <52853D8A.6010501@monetize.io> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:34:19 +0100 Message-ID: From: Wladimir To: Jeff Garzik Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042ac0f4a8d63704f47d0284 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (laanwj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WO5mC-0001Gg-Qc Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Wendell Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:34:25 -0000 --f46d042ac0f4a8d63704f47d0284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Resurrecting this topic. Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks > ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was > uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in > additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place > transition. > I've kind of given up getting any consensus about this, or even getting people to care. Everyone agrees that a decimal shift would be good, but it's the same boring shed painting discussion every time on how many decimals. In the end nothing happens. I can't really blame Andreas for finally taking action and making the change to mBTC. People in the community are familiar with mBTC because some exchanges and price sites used mBTC (at least for a while when >$1000), also mBTC seems to be catching on on reddit etc. Moving to muBTC (which in itself would be better because it is the final unit change ever needed without hardfork) would require more coordinated education effort. Wladimir --f46d042ac0f4a8d63704f47d0284 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>= wrote:
Resurrecting this topic. =C2=A0Bitcoin Walle= t moved to mBTC several weeks
ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was
uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in
additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place
transition.

I've kind of given up g= etting any consensus about this, or even getting people to care.

Ev= eryone agrees that a decimal shift would be good, but it's the same bor= ing shed painting discussion every time on how many decimals. In the end no= thing happens.

I can't really blame Andreas for finally taking action and making t= he change to mBTC. People in the community are familiar with mBTC because s= ome exchanges and price sites used mBTC (at least for a while when >$100= 0), also mBTC seems to be catching on on reddit etc.

Moving to muBTC (which in itself would be better = because it is the final unit change ever needed without hardfork) would req= uire more coordinated education effort.

Wladimir
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