From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXwSA-0000bJ-Vw for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 17:38:27 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.223.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.182; envelope-from=laanwj@gmail.com; helo=mail-ie0-f182.google.com; Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com ([209.85.223.182]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXwSA-00082w-DE for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 17:38:26 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id y20so2787124ier.13 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:38:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.88.79 with SMTP id b15mr2439681icm.65.1397065101159; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.70.131 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:38:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 19:38:21 +0200 Message-ID: From: Wladimir To: Alex Mizrahi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fccc31533fc04f69f918e X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (laanwj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WXwSA-00082w-DE Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoind-in-background mode for SPV wallets X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 17:38:27 -0000 --90e6ba3fccc31533fc04f69f918e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Alex Mizrahi wrote: > 1) It's more private. Bloom filters gives away quite accurate statistical >> information about what coins you own to whom ever you happen to be >> connected too. An attacker can easily use this to deanonymize you even if >> you don't reuse addresses; Tor does not help much against this attack. >> > > There is also an option to download everything, but do only a very basic > surface validation (without keeping track of UTXOs). > You do not need a full node for that. > You may not *need* a full node, but the point of this (which I clearly explained in my opening post) would be to support the network. Wladimir --90e6ba3fccc31533fc04f69f918e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Alex Mizrahi <alex.mizrahi@gmail.com= > wrote:
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1) It's more private. Bloom filters gives away quite accurate statistic= al information about what coins you own to whom ever you happen to be conne= cted too. An attacker can easily use this to deanonymize you even if you do= n't reuse addresses; Tor does not help much against this attack.

There is also an option to download = everything, but do only a very basic surface validation (without keeping tr= ack of UTXOs).
You do not need a full node for that.

You may not *need* a full node= , but the point of this (which I clearly explained in my opening post) woul= d be to support the network.

Wladimir

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