From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BAB51316 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:11:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com (mail-ig0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1B391B8 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbuu8 with SMTP id uu8so53712758igb.0 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:11:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vinumeris.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wdBUct8kkcty5GbDBPQw/43R3n1yLImOezN1EH/1MwI=; b=qXg6os1pzajLMXjQ4t06rpVEsbkg/JkHftU7Ipz9Y/SPWfC2qU612u89cyWL/jaBe6 LlWSGbeHD3WDwRYa2qGPzmZOOIPH7Jum3EzuoYxyYo2KIvplna1XEpWNnXWIEfQTJJJN PHm/tWyKYc2Z7jmtxU/Bq4/QGP5/ZquihNzMY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wdBUct8kkcty5GbDBPQw/43R3n1yLImOezN1EH/1MwI=; b=Poxa7NZ75ZUM9vXtAMqLFyo7l3K+6ot+Jq6wIOwR8l6vUG9uWM3mWPcQdG59nXiHCz uNy+eHrsrY7gjZeg+6zyVLS72YPeQEwVrEbb8U0555KDLOtuJU0//7cJ4PjR8stgP2YV qj35GzrKYqX5dkBDKMw6/i0oykKJcv6sqYrp6ozAcJhEQkICZYCUgUzcaDTqzIx0AX+g BLVHO1Y3fExxGTlUzXutBvdYKZ4R/V6iB6ABlVHv6y6L5AfzemOsOoOp1sFsRIm3bvbK 96PQGzzGlQgGDRlORYWXEbuznZwdgK+VjgfAouO3nSsNtznhf4cU1acRJKOLG2gUF2VP 1P+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlnIsttCyDvV4Mbc7lVtzvPvaoNkG0Ya5je6lMl4QD+TUBPI8nsv3kUOCQGwql6i4G5NzvC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.138.130 with SMTP id qq2mr103474igb.83.1441048317130; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.192.233 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55E4A32F.9080908@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org> References: <5CC48639-11D0-4682-BF82-443286C8E58D@gmx.com> <55E4A32F.9080908@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 21:11:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Justus Ranvier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01229dde0c1995051ea03534 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Your Gmaxwell exchange X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:11:58 -0000 --089e01229dde0c1995051ea03534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think your summary of what people actually want from decentralisation is pretty good, Justus. > I don't believe that any Bitcoin user actually cares > about decentralization, because none of them I've asked can define that > term. > +1 Insightful It's been quite impressive to see so many Bitcoin users and developers saying, "Bitcoin is totally decentralised because it's open source and nobody is in charge...... oh nooooooo we didn't mean you could change *those lines! *If you want to change *those lines* then *we* must agree first!" Believing simultaneously that: 1. Bitcoin is decentralised 2. Nobody should modify the code in certain ways without the agreement of me and my buddies is just doublethink. --089e01229dde0c1995051ea03534 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think your summary of what people actually want from decentralisation is= pretty good, Justus.
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I don't be= lieve that any Bitcoin user actually cares about=C2=A0decentralization, bec= ause none of them I've asked can define that term.

+1 Insightful

It's been quite = impressive to see so many Bitcoin users and developers saying, "Bitcoi= n is totally decentralised because it's open source and nobody is in ch= arge...... oh nooooooo we didn't mean you could change those lines! = If you want to change those lines=C2=A0then we=C2=A0must = agree first!"

Believing simultaneously that:<= /div>

1. Bitcoin is decentralised

2. Nobody should modify the code in certain ways without the agreement o= f me and my buddies

is just doublethink.
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