From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78CF91539 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:29:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE04B249 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbni9 with SMTP id ni9so12309929igb.0 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vinumeris.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=o1HfX73XM2KM07C3B3zSpw6gT1IiBD5ZI22ynh3Ar0Q=; b=Ivc6ZoKe+DJS77Q2kDQKjD7HUx5Lfw7LOyjfNAA4MzCXqmnr40uQUIyx0pXAKymUKa jH50MrwsnFSCoR3PFQgwa9qVIIRJ3zMjkWdJEDOsN6qr9offb90E/YuHCL44k1Tqc5lc hqoUC22Mt7LxKrqczIfhmFm9q256z1NaYJJAg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=o1HfX73XM2KM07C3B3zSpw6gT1IiBD5ZI22ynh3Ar0Q=; b=h+Or213tzziL3fLq3U+Dyl4eilh4sLQSnpr5rPUq7FWIwMHFw6YVO+LfcBD/dq51Au fcxT2vj+hh88uu1XSKlOsA+ubyMKuN2GExiFaK8+V05+9PRGAj2ZLSqoPMkdQMv1pDTY 8ZbFXULrm0ABAkWImPoLfyTQbURueHJRGDMjrvGH3hqA/UFOeRxEBDpkDo9H8dAvME5N rzcOaITGbNjkDS9Eyc/BdqSeFklxM1aL2Gg0MjgKlKVhYYltTGKb251y8CM1aBHUvLmF tLOZU3d3MW3WN5EWxI8QSYmJK4Vht6W8jLdWMXH2lgw3kKaFp5LyS7tL4EDDmUzbDcVM J9wg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn6KyRgxYVAZrDpDl286d8uryQJTeWeg6iqJ/hKkADBONhI/yy+8aW/5eeQDXEWffhXjVEq MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.197 with SMTP id h5mr25021397igt.69.1443547741367; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.226.144 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1026821443544682@web7h.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:29:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Mark Friedenbach Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6be0e5753e60520e626b0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin development mailing list Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] On bitcoin-dev list admin and list noise X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:29:02 -0000 --047d7bd6be0e5753e60520e626b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There's a simple way to cut down on "noise" that doesn't involve people shouting OFFTOPIC at each other: the maintainer needs to resolve discussions by making decisions and saying, this is how Core does it. If you disagree, go make/join a fork because there's no point in discussing this any further here. People would get the picture pretty fast. Wladimir doesn't do this. That is something he should fix. Clearly ending debates so they don't run in circles forever is a basic management technique. Allowing random people to give each other red cards is merely a great way to piss off users even further, because anyone who objects to a clearly bone-headed decision will be told they're discussing philosophy and to go away (this is meaningless). --047d7bd6be0e5753e60520e626b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There's a simple way to cut= down on "noise" that doesn't involve people shouting OFFTOPI= C at each other: the maintainer needs to resolve discussions by making deci= sions and saying, this is how Core does it. If you disagree, go make/join a= fork because there's no point in discussing this any further here. Peo= ple would get the picture pretty fast.

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Wladimir doesn't do this. That is some= thing he should fix. Clearly ending debates so they don't run in circle= s forever is a basic management technique.
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Allowing random people to give each ot= her red cards is merely a great way to piss off users even further, because= anyone who objects to a clearly bone-headed decision will be told they'= ;re discussing philosophy and to go away=C2=A0(this is meaningless).
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