From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32D671CA1 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:30:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f181.google.com (mail-io0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A90F81D3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iofh134 with SMTP id h134so45395103iof.0 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:30:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vinumeris.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HaxsBm7+Mv8z12OtfTs6IeihllOEOJiw/GRLebeY+8A=; b=qEAhBPYomJTeBdu73FayL1lLC8xrTJQz9WFk8596zHmS+QsdMsoLzdzQravtdkmwdZ kKi5S+mpuZqlyR4FY+qS1IfKk0ZbQFPo8b3eGShJBMYlGzXy1JdfrcdIpo9cRZurKRLM xv+JGv3yF+9dEqflHubjLZzmW0dv/kWOc3wmk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HaxsBm7+Mv8z12OtfTs6IeihllOEOJiw/GRLebeY+8A=; b=ImWk2x0VzqBEfXubgZfdRz8FqUTi7NFtAmY8/OKsAmaN49mnz3NeePhRx58zZKG8hW eSPBMRYmRXRZrrg/kAXYSsA93r1x4q/I/qR+qzQr4dLRfCIRNI9xvSthV324zK8j+79l XJA5kbi49HPbO+ufdjHAjRINAUJg3JJb2nyKbbjeGn4H+9ZYyZnsxxZ6ooAS9YaTdUts SloNlKGnIZjTzVue1mlMxXi9H4P9tPQ4JYaiI0EIwDjBgMAdEhBBiQs5fiGDIm0/D/oQ 0lWDCDg29GHqxv79Pp4NPsHpU2VNNxF52g21TXc5FZzWGClneMW5OY2/QV/majSFd//m YDnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnWyEiCIYlny3pGTjN+YFCMpj+e+TYO5pYYsvpoHO32n1xYLJ7vPFmC52kHgpxm1+FqMUcz MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.166.139 with SMTP id p133mr4192995ioe.113.1443616226148; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.123.166 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:30:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20150927185031.GA20599@savin.petertodd.org> <20150929200302.GA5051@amethyst.visucore.com> <87wpv8ft61.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Adam Back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141ef3c5a53ca0520f618f0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Let's deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY! X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:30:27 -0000 --001a1141ef3c5a53ca0520f618f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think from discussion with Gavin sometime during the montreal > scaling bitcoin workshop, XT maybe willing to make things easy and > adapt what it's doing. If Core ships CLTV as is, then XT will have to adopt it - such is the nature of a consensus system. This will not change the fact that the rollout strategy is bad and nobody has answered my extremely basic question: *why* is it being done in this way, given the numerous downsides? --001a1141ef3c5a53ca0520f618f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think from discussion with Gavin sometime duri= ng the montreal
scaling bitcoin workshop, XT maybe willing to make things easy and
adapt what it's doing.

If Core ships CL= TV as is, then XT will have to adopt it - such is the nature of a consensus= system.

This will not change the fact that the ro= llout strategy is bad and nobody has answered my extremely basic question: = why=C2=A0is it being done in this way, given the numerous downsides?=


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