From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcka-0001iO-JR for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:53:36 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.178; envelope-from=ayeowch@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f178.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com ([209.85.214.178]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1XCckZ-0005X8-DU for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:53:36 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id nu7so1031240obb.37 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:53:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.114.169 with SMTP id jh9mr160002obb.25.1406760809917; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.25.8 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:53:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:53:29 +1000 Message-ID: From: Addy Yeow To: Jeff Garzik Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2f63e5bf47904ff7106a1 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (ayeowch[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP URI: URI host has a public dotted-decimal IPv4 address 0.0 WEIRD_PORT URI: Uses non-standard port number for HTTP 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1XCckZ-0005X8-DU Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Abusive and broken bitcoin seeders X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:53:36 -0000 --001a11c2f63e5bf47904ff7106a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I believe the requests Jeff is seeing came from my crawler although anyone could be running it (https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnodes) since there is no IP address in the log to confirm the source of the requests. This is a sample log of an actual request from my crawler at 148.251.238.178 : *2014-07-30 22:43:54 receive version message: /getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=313244, us=X.X.X.X:8333, them=0.0.0.0:0 , peer=148.251.238.178:47635* Currently, the crawler takes a full snapshot of the network of reachable nodes as soon as it is done with previous snapshot. I want to be able to diff between the snapshots to get the join and leave nodes periodically. Each full snapshot is taken on average between 3 to 4 minutes hence the requests that you see from the crawler every 3 to 4 minutes. I have a task in my schedule ( https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnodes/wiki/Schedule#crawlpypingpy) to improve upon this method by skipping a new connection with currently reachable nodes while still being able to perform the diff. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Seeing this on one of my public nodes: > 2014-07-30 13:13:26 receive version message: > /getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=313169, > us=162.219.2.72:8333, peer=11847 > 2014-07-30 13:13:33 receive version message: > /getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=290000, > us=162.219.2.72:8333, peer=11848 > 2014-07-30 13:14:21 receive version message: > /getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=313169, > us=162.219.2.72:8333, peer=11849 > > That is abusive, taking up public slots. There is no reason to > connect so rapidly to the same node. > > Other seeders are also rapidly reconnect'ers, though the time window > is slightly more wide: > 2014-07-30 13:09:35 receive version message: /bitcoinseeder:0.01/: > version 60000, blocks=230000, us=162.219.2.72:8333, peer=11843 > 2014-07-30 13:12:42 receive version message: /bitcoinseeder:0.01/: > version 60000, blocks=230000, us=162.219.2.72:8333, peer=11846 > > The version message helpfully tells me my own IP address but not theirs ;p > > -- > Jeff Garzik > Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist > BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ > --001a11c2f63e5bf47904ff7106a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I believe the requests Jeff is seeing came from my cr= awler although anyone could be running it (https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnodes) = since there is no IP address=C2=A0in the log to confirm the source of the r= equests.

This is a sample log of an actual request from my crawl= er at 148.251.238.178:
= 2014-07-30 22:43:54 receive version message: /getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: ver= sion 70001, blocks=3D313244, us=3DX.X.X.X:8333, them=3D0.0.0.0:0, peer=3D148.251.238.178:47635

Currently, the crawler takes a full snapshot of the network o= f reachable nodes as soon as it is done with previous snapshot. I want to b= e able to diff between the snapshots to get the join and leave nodes period= ically. Each full snapshot is taken on average between 3 to 4 minutes hence= the requests that you see from the crawler every 3 to 4 minutes.

I have a task in my schedule (https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnod= es/wiki/Schedule#crawlpypingpy) to improve upon this method by skipping= a new connection with currently reachable nodes while still being able to = perform the diff.


On Wed,= Jul 30, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>= wrote:
Seeing this on one of my public nodes:
2014-07-30 13:13:26 receive version message:
/getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=3D313169,
us=3D162.219.2.72:83= 33, peer=3D11847
2014-07-30 13:13:33 receive version message:
/getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=3D290000,
us=3D162.219.2.72:83= 33, peer=3D11848
2014-07-30 13:14:21 receive version message:
/getaddr.bitnodes.io:0.1/: version 70001, blocks=3D313169,
us=3D162.219.2.72:83= 33, peer=3D11849

That is abusive, taking up public slots. =C2=A0There is no reason to
connect so rapidly to the same node.

Other seeders are also rapidly reconnect'ers, though the time window is slightly more wide:
2014-07-30 13:09:35 receive version message: /bitcoinseeder:0.01/:
version 60000, blocks=3D230000, us=3D162.219.2.72:8333, peer=3D11843
2014-07-30 13:12:42 receive version message: /bitcoinseeder:0.01/:
version 60000, blocks=3D230000, us=3D162.219.2.72:8333, peer=3D11846

The version message helpfully tells me my own IP address but not theirs ;p<= br>
--
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://bitpay.com/

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