From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BFDD8E4 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:48:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F8D914B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagz9 with SMTP id z9so1240185lag.3 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 04:48:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GmbOdJ9yhZm4/tvihDMlZCVitOZWOj+1rHqplGyglwg=; b=z0NiRBWZp0Ub/LbcI2EcJMYRTQCdA9YcKUnXBZoEOHzZeQfsp8pYvC8bOYGUbl8Yx+ 8dFCHthAeqjh96h/3Rk/8hMsJXXKNpU3F/MTWzNGUKYS8ktrY3+Qc0El7IGjOAbEFWT+ 0/s39MFBNcsSai6J7TkMT0I7FOn+Wt4AQaojt02jTDfX+rUBtM/VGuHmbOLZrE2q9G7w momDGkb6/vLPU3gmoLGQv2ImVVgtgjDDNQYXJHVJq0eD9foeBkJXz2aiE3zLt8rELnTN 7A6QtmgK9rhQjLl0ZH39suXJpQmqlIbujEskt77Tk6EXjOUNLutU1voAcDHHcvsdySNU t02g== X-Received: by 10.112.17.70 with SMTP id m6mr10872295lbd.113.1439984927838; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 04:48:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.22.25 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 04:48:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Hector Chu Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:48:28 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jameson Lopp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A solution to increase the incentive of running a node X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:48:50 -0000 On 19 August 2015 at 12:42, Jameson Lopp wrote: > If you can actually come up with a technical solution that allows for a node > operator to prove to the rest of the network that they are running an honest > full node that hosts the entire blockchain, then you can move forward with a > direct monetary incentivization proposal. To my knowledge no one has been > successful in that endeavor. To be more clear, your proposal would need to > be able to differentiate between a full node and a pseudonode. > https://github.com/basil00/PseudoNode The proof is in the validation of transactions. How can a node reliably validate transactions unless it has the past history of transactions? Entire blockchain not required or necessary, but that's a plus.