From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A35E25A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:06:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED924FD for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by labow3 with SMTP id ow3so11102989lab.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=nw8HAIqL2V8zvsFaY2OY8tMIdRd3aw7KTAs+dFA/Sls=; b=cER30o0FBFFgiR25bTwCi7TZ9Qfo4c+TVMp4Vz5c3pUtxjdzk1VCcItK/6dsNF6ERn diGZv3/yKHwdDIlL/DtJgu2qYtHTWd5SUp4rM659K1L2PpOy3xAx58iHSlsP2Q1Z4F/N HlvJjMWLZ+/FpXXSMBJq+q7QknXewDcgqhY8F6pppekJDfehz4ygjIx2PSgZ17UVgD75 Ds5IRtn4LaNvtgg3JaLdhL0dp3sE9mPx3D/TxDHht1+MoPpHM+6qgdrQHAyjFO/caeUV eFnjGAnAMwNvS+cZFGn6KL563YB0swTnCLdHGttj+3lm7NfkP5le9AoKIFcoV2L8XInN HDRw== X-Received: by 10.112.137.164 with SMTP id qj4mr15406430lbb.105.1438589192131; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:06:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.22.25 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 01:06:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55BF153B.9030001@bitcartel.com> From: Hector Chu Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 09:06:12 +0100 Message-ID: To: Adam Back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115fd1cc65abe051c63a530 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A reason we can all agree on to increase block size X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:06:38 -0000 --089e0115fd1cc65abe051c63a530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 3 August 2015 at 08:53, Adam Back wrote: > Again this should not be a political or business compromise model - we > must focus on scientific evaluation, technical requirements and > security. > I will assert that the block size is political because it affects nearly all users to some degree and not all those users are technically inclined or care to keep decentralisation in the current configuration as you do. This debate has forgotten the current and future users of Bitcoin. Most of them think the hit to node count in the short term preferable to making it expensive and competitive to transact. We all need a little faith that the system will reorganise and readjust after the move to big blocks in a way that still has a reasonable degree of decentralisation and trustlessness. The incentives of Bitcoin remain, so everyone's decentralised decision throughout the system, from miners, merchants and users, will continue to act according to those incentives. --089e0115fd1cc65abe051c63a530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 3= August 2015 at 08:53, Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org> w= rote:
Again this should not be a politica= l or business compromise model - we
must focus on scientific evaluation, technical requirements and
security.

I will assert that the block size = is political because it affects nearly all users to some degree and not all= those users are technically inclined or care to keep decentralisation in t= he current configuration as you do. This debate has forgotten the current a= nd future users of Bitcoin. Most of them think the hit to node count in the= short term preferable to making it expensive and competitive to transact.<= /div>

We all= need a little faith that the system will reorganise and readjust after the= move to big blocks in a way that still has a reasonable degree of decentra= lisation and trustlessness. The incentives of Bitcoin remain, so everyone&#= 39;s decentralised decision throughout the system, from miners, merchants a= nd users, will continue to act according to those incentives.
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