From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF4E10DC for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:57:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f173.google.com (mail-io0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB22F103 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ioiz6 with SMTP id z6so47487948ioi.2 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=e0r5dd4fs5xQdsyKFYANTcfPAKzgCoWM/sbzj2twcNs=; b=t90ZzUpJix1alxADA1JrSMd7/F+ajUBiv9sCtbiDrF3YkLuX37/2/xnp5/Li91JLow v98L5R+PRzJ58I+jk0YcD1KPPvAbbTd9MFKqubaV8/YErazaMsGcmKMo3f3Q5/ZuJiNJ 8YP66oVZo1a4N/IkrCDZSSrruGUTbe2U29mq7W6rr92Zz4zNZXYqHFmn2b/ozbLK5csb uS4Xs5ON7x/F9+gEfBTbWYK/j9xqpqSnhKkqoSjikEQO7jpR9ur/YjideOD4DfHO3e3Q 17dHgKt9ec3sFQopCTSr4GOKttrtYg4lcN/YO5KMECibfEKgQqwRsvVmrjPYyf+cJtJ/ 1Hcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.167.213 with SMTP id q204mr18201176ioe.150.1441263464213; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.19.30 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 23:57:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:57:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: Gregory Maxwell To: Jeff Garzik Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin development mailing list Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] block size - pay with difficulty X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 06:57:45 -0000 On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev wrote: > (b) requiring miners to have idle > hashpower on hand to change block size are both unrealistic and potentially I really cannot figure out how you could characterize pay with difficty has in any way involving idle hashpower. Can you walk me through this?