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From: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
To: Matt Whitlock <bip@mattwhitlock.name>
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] deterministic transaction expiration
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:28:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgQPVwMzHBWmbRLBHZcm+YEbioqUHoL_a-SLr9yWDmguiw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3826251.5rGb1MfKOu@crushinator>

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Matt Whitlock <bip@mattwhitlock.name> wrote:
> It would make more sense to introduce a new script opcode that pushes the current block height onto the operand stack. Then you could implement arbitrary logic about which blocks the transaction can be valid in. This would require that the client revalidate all transactions in its mempool (really, only those making use of this opcode) whenever the chain tip changes.

Transactions that become invalid later are have pretty severe
consequences because they might mean that completely in an absence of
fraud transactions are forever precluded due to a otherwise harmless
reorg.

While there may be uses for that, the resulting outputs should be
considered differently fungible— like coinbases which are immature—
and should probably be only used with great caution... not as a
mechanism for ordinary transactions.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-01  0:58 [Bitcoin-development] deterministic transaction expiration Kaz Wesley
2014-08-01  1:06 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-01  1:37   ` Kaz Wesley
2014-08-01  1:38 ` Matt Whitlock
2014-08-01  2:28   ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2014-08-01  3:26     ` Matt Whitlock
2014-08-01  3:31       ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-08-05 18:01         ` Alex Mizrahi
2014-08-02  0:36 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-05 17:02   ` Flavien Charlon
2014-08-05 17:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-05 18:54   ` Mike Hearn
2014-08-05 19:08     ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-05 19:10   ` Kaz Wesley
2014-08-05 19:36     ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06  4:01     ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 12:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 13:54         ` Mike Hearn
2014-08-06 14:44           ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 15:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 15:17               ` Christian Decker
2014-08-06 15:42                 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 16:15                   ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 17:02                     ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 17:21                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:34                         ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 17:24                       ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 16:31                   ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:20                     ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 17:30                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:38                         ` Peter Todd
2014-08-08 17:38                 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-08 18:13                   ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-08 18:42                     ` Kaz Wesley

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