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From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org>
To: shaolinfry <shaolinfry@protonmail.ch>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:28:14 +0000	[thread overview]
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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:39 PM, shaolinfry <shaolinfry@protonmail.ch> wrote:
> I agree with much of your thoughts. I originally started working on a
> generalized way to deploy user activated soft forks, in a way that leveraged
> BIP9 to allow for optional faster MASF activation. BIP148 came about as a
> way to satify many people's frustrations about the current segwit
> activation. I have said several times in various places that the proposal
> requires a very high amount of consensus that needs to be present to make
> actual deployment feasible. BIP148 is certainly not what a normal UASF would
> or should look like.
>
> I remain convinced the community very much wants segwit activated and that
> the UASF movement in general has gained a lot of traction. While support for
> BIP148 is surprisingly high, there are definitely important players who
> support UASF in general but do not like BIP148 approach (which you rightly
> point out is a UASF to force a MASF).
[...]
> With BIP8 we could perform a UASF segwit deployment. Due to some
> complexities in the peering logic, I recommend a new deployment with a fresh
> bit that starts right after November 15th (when BIP9 segwit timesout) with a
> BIP8 timeout for April 2018. The code can deployed much earlier. For example
> if code was deployed today, it would give the economy a year to upgrade.
> Activation could still occur safely by MASF any time from now until April
> 2018 (SEGWIT until Nov, then UASEGWIT from Nov until April 2018).
>
> I am still working on the finer implementation details, but you can see a
> rough draft from this diff (which includes BIP8 in the first commit, and the
> proposed bip-segwit-uasf in the second commit).
>
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/master...shaolinfry:uasegwit-flagday
>
> I believe this approach would satisfy the more measured approach expected
> for Bitcoin and does not have the issues you brought up about BIP148.

I have not reviewed it carefully yet, but I agree that it addresses my
main concern!  I think this is a much better approach. Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-14  7:56 [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 16:50 ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 17:36   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-14 18:33     ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 19:12   ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:20 ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:33   ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:34     ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 20:51       ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:58         ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 21:10           ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 21:12             ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 20:59       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  2:01 ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  3:05   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-15  3:29   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  4:10     ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  4:47       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  6:28 ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-15  7:04   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  7:46     ` Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:23       ` Natanael
2017-04-15 13:54         ` Greg Sanders
2017-04-15  8:05     ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-20 18:39 ` shaolinfry
2017-04-25 18:28   ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2017-04-25 18:46     ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-02 16:54       ` Erik Aronesty
2017-05-22 19:23 ` Suhas Daftuar
2017-05-23  4:03   ` Steven Pine
2017-05-23  6:30     ` Karl Johan Alm
2017-05-23 12:55       ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-23 13:20         ` Jorge Timón
2017-05-23  9:47     ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-04-14 10:52 Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:42 Mark Friedenbach
2017-04-15 14:54 ` Ryan Grant
2017-04-15 18:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-19 16:17   ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-20 14:23     ` Alphonse Pace
2017-04-20 15:48       ` Erik Aronesty

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