From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF6BA92 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:27:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ua0-f176.google.com (mail-ua0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FBE111C for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p25so16206641uaa.1 for ; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:27:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=nwWjP0gL1Xr7/JVM9qQXPdBr8TVfUMYItJNKrDlaKQ4=; b=Rf1Z5Uw4IOzpQjUtRGIj/BpinpDILvDvHJ9glHbwpaKTyIxq7pnfYjakmEsLDvFja2 zGcY4MqxBIP4mt4mazcdtmmICKPnODuDXzenKJCuA+JPFG0mYcfhAWrSnbpTOIEe50in 1fveOZhEy3S7/St/eVNpKxAXV5r2uZVEAOhAtT9ecZzaYs3F5ZHjqBEm0aMlpnS4pSHT /Ic59UVx+ax/reFVGRugIIeAg6bVXY7Xv5Y4/o85689vGL4yMZZfvPuqHxrjsYiXdyYK XjU0ByPsbsvIWnixFUWTmo127pjITjUnQXEDSGHtGCg9KwC0sFiMCPPyocdKAC4MAMB9 CXdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nwWjP0gL1Xr7/JVM9qQXPdBr8TVfUMYItJNKrDlaKQ4=; b=lEalnCzQXtsOCoDjZEBHozSkudcf0qnC3EvDmUzsIAu3bqaeHAQsTxIgn5UzLUsyP8 4aeGEtj7md0o7W70fl4AlFRoHxdiI5+gju7EDieM6rPodVpYWr6PFWgkQtKI4QnasKCj mZjPC/HhN20dWqI7NyPD+edATH9JonAyUYtQG0IiLJDg0dkLAQacTJz/gfKkijUD1TYu QOrFIXtJhDgE4Qx/l9R6hxtuWQTas1OtOngu9tVy2myUehFO9GUzkx58NkoteoBLxaiS zSso1aIKSl1w4iEH+u4YYWVuwJhUhoXzcRbs6Whwv3bvLQCamxX9m/jdDSMECUaG1ash Loig== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rmyhsv2X9gP/piOouXEDBAlLE/LPyyufTCsfcHU5gFFarMrwygQhaTyEpSpBjxSSbzr9HHNVceryhAJ1w== X-Received: by 10.159.39.38 with SMTP id a35mr11958805uaa.140.1475450841636; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:27:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gmaxwell@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.33.145 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:27:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57F195EC.30009@mattcorallo.com> References: <57F18F5A.6010304@mattcorallo.com> <57F195EC.30009@mattcorallo.com> From: Gregory Maxwell Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:27:20 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wXh8I1_9WDcK-zBMF05Yzo4vpps Message-ID: To: Matt Corallo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] About ASICBoost X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 23:27:22 -0000 On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Matt Corallo wrote: > Even if the Bitcoin Foundation decided to recklessly disregard Bitcoin's > future centralization, I'm not sure going to them and asking them to pay > a license fee in order to keep from holding the rest of the Bitcoin > mining community hostage counts as "regard for centralization pressure". > It also doesn't excuse the lack of transparent licensing being available > today, or the lack of transparency when discussing it in public after > the patent had been filed. We can't change the past (besides, would you want BCF to have owned that patent? I didn't)-- only the future. To do so requires collaboration, so lets focus on that.