From: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
To: Hector Chu <hectorchu@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:28:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgRjug58b=j7-qs95xQf7y8zCfokwmaVL+rhcK8_8M0EaQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAO2FKF85Q-SoTEeVrYLEh-ZiEsGoMe1zzbDVdZy3FLbwU5yQg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On 15 August 2015 at 18:43, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of
>> relying solely on altruism.
>
>
> Is he talking about "full nodes" i.e. validating-only, or nodes in the sense
> of the original whitepaper (i.e. miners)? Because there is already plenty of
> incentive for running a node (i.e. the coinbase).
One can mine without running a node, unfortunately, thats where the
comments about pooled mining come from.
Also, this distionction between full nodes that "Validate" and
(presumably) SPV wallets that don't validate isn't consistent with the
design of Bitcoin.
> enter the mining game. A bit like making P2Pool the one and only pool
> allowed on the network.
Thats been suggested, though scalablity reasons make this hard: in the
P2Pool design there is a substantial tradeoff in variance reduction vs
communicatoin costs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-17 19:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-15 17:43 [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork Satoshi Nakamoto
2015-08-15 19:08 ` Laszlo Hanyecz
2015-08-15 19:10 ` jl2012
2015-08-17 11:40 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 11:44 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 11:51 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 16:32 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 17:01 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 17:15 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 17:30 ` Btc Drak
2015-08-17 17:18 ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-17 19:14 ` Peter Todd
2015-08-17 17:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-08-17 19:03 ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-08-17 20:37 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-18 5:16 ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-18 9:15 ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-08-18 11:52 ` Micha Bailey
2015-08-18 18:57 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-18 20:59 ` Anon Moto
2015-08-19 1:03 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2015-08-17 19:02 ` Anon Moto
2015-08-17 19:40 ` Marcel Jamin
2015-08-17 19:16 ` Hector Chu
2015-08-17 19:28 ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2015-08-17 19:39 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 21:29 ` [bitcoin-dev] Incentives to run full nodes Peter Todd
2015-08-17 21:44 ` Chris Pacia
2015-08-18 0:20 ` Joseph Poon
2015-08-19 5:21 ` odinn
2015-10-04 6:46 ` odinn
2015-10-04 6:59 ` odinn
2015-08-19 2:54 ` [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork odinn
2015-08-19 2:59 ` Angel Leon
2015-08-17 20:24 Theo Chino
2015-08-18 4:56 ` Dave Scotese
2015-08-19 8:25 Btc Drak
2015-08-19 16:53 Adam Back
2015-08-19 17:22 ` Simon Liu
2015-08-19 18:13 ` Peter Todd
2015-08-19 23:37 ` Simon Liu
2015-08-19 17:28 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 17:32 ` Btc Drak
2015-08-19 18:20 ` Peter Todd
2015-08-19 19:15 ` Btc Drak
2015-08-19 19:32 ` odinn
2015-08-19 19:48 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-19 19:58 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 20:04 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-19 22:00 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 23:07 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-08-19 23:27 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 23:56 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-20 1:00 ` GC
2015-08-20 1:17 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-20 0:08 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-08-19 18:22 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 19:12 ` Santino Napolitano
2015-08-19 19:28 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-20 9:00 ` Mike Hearn
2015-08-20 9:13 ` Peter Todd
2015-08-21 3:01 ` odinn
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