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From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org>
To: Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:50:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgSGNErAHmZCeKr+agnS4YEwf57yAmvv70XzkkqRfvdDig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOG=w-saibrGeOSaLFtcFo_D+2Gw4zoNA-brS=aPuBoyGuPCZA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Mark Friedenbach via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> triggering BIP141 activation, and therefore not enabling the new consensus
> rules on already deployed full nodes. BIP148 is making an explicit choice
> to favor dragging along those users which have upgraded to BIP141 support
> over those miners who have failed to upgrade.
>

I do not follow the argument that a critical design feature of a particular
"user activated soft fork" could be that it is users don't need to be
involved.  If the goal is user activation I would think that the
expectation would be that the overwhelming majority of users would be
upgrading to do it, if that isn't the case, then it isn't really a user
activated softfork-- it's something else.


> On an aside, I'm somewhat disappointed that you have decided to make a
> public statement against the UASF proposal. Not because we disagree -- that
> is fine -- but because any UASF must be a grassroots effort and
> endorsements (or denouncements) detract from that.
>

So it has to be supported by the public but I can't say why I don't support
it? This seems extremely suspect to me.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-15 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-15 13:42 [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF Mark Friedenbach
2017-04-15 14:54 ` Ryan Grant
2017-04-15 18:50 ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2017-04-19 16:17   ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-20 14:23     ` Alphonse Pace
2017-04-20 15:48       ` Erik Aronesty
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-14 10:52 Chris Acheson
2017-04-14  7:56 Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 16:50 ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 17:36   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-14 18:33     ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 19:12   ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:20 ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:33   ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:34     ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 20:51       ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:58         ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 21:10           ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 21:12             ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 20:59       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  2:01 ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  3:05   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-15  3:29   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  4:10     ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  4:47       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  6:28 ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-15  7:04   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  7:46     ` Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:23       ` Natanael
2017-04-15 13:54         ` Greg Sanders
2017-04-15  8:05     ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-20 18:39 ` shaolinfry
2017-04-25 18:28   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-25 18:46     ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-02 16:54       ` Erik Aronesty
2017-05-22 19:23 ` Suhas Daftuar
2017-05-23  4:03   ` Steven Pine
2017-05-23  6:30     ` Karl Johan Alm
2017-05-23 12:55       ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-23 13:20         ` Jorge Timón
2017-05-23  9:47     ` Hampus Sjöberg

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