From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U5jWI-0004k0-JH for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:05:34 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.219.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.51; envelope-from=gmaxwell@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa0-f51.google.com; Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.219.51]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1U5jWG-0001XS-Ri for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:05:34 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h2so1769911oag.24 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:05:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.172.229 with SMTP id bf5mr17362323oec.81.1360789527488; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.19.129 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:05:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:05:27 -0800 Message-ID: From: Gregory Maxwell To: Gavin Andresen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gmaxwell[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1U5jWG-0001XS-Ri Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Incorporating block validation rule modifications into the block chain X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:05:34 -0000 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Gavin Andresen w= rote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Gregory Maxwell > wrote: >> Since, in the long run, >> Bitcoin can't meet its security and decenteralization promises without >> blockspace scarcity to drive non-trivial fees and without scaling >> limits to keep it decenteralized=E2=80=94 it's not a change that could b= e made >> more lightly than changing the supply of coin. > I disagree with Gregory on this. I believe that Bitcoin CAN meet its > security and decentralization promises without any hard limit on block si= ze. > > I had a fruitful discussion about this with an economist friend this > weekend, and I'll eventually getting around to writing up why I believe > raising the block size limit will not be a problem. That would be fantastic.