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From: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
To: Oliver Egginger <bitcoin@olivere.de>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:18:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgT1VxNCaVy=xqU5SCNn_f1k071V26wy5-v2t7qxHW6=3A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D1CAAF.6010400@olivere.de>

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> To avoid such discussions.

You seem to be assuming that there is specific reason to believe the
message is unauthentic.  This is not the case.

Contrary to other poster's claims, if the message had been PGP signed
that might, in fact, have arguably been weak evidence that it was
unauthentic: no message from the system's creator that I (or
apparently anyone) was aware of was ever signed with that key.

The headers on the message check out.  The mail server in question is
also not an open relay.  At the moment the only reason I have to doubt
the authenticity of it is merely the fact that it exists after so much
air silence, but that isn't especially strong.

In the presence of doubt, it's better to take it just for its content.
And on that front it is more on-topic, civil, and productively
directed than a substantial fraction of new messages on the list.  I
certainly do not see a reason to hide it.

A focus on the content is especially relevant because one of the core
messages in the content is a request to eschew arguments from
authority; which is perhaps the greatest challenge here: How can the
founder of a system speak up to ask people to reject that kind of
argument without implicitly endorsing that approach through their own
act?

This whole tangest is a waste of time.  If you believe the message is
unauthentic or not the best response is the same as if it is
authentic. Focus on the content. If its worth responding to, do. If
it's not don't. Then move on with life.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-17 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-15 17:43 [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork Satoshi Nakamoto
2015-08-15 19:08 ` Laszlo Hanyecz
2015-08-15 19:10 ` jl2012
2015-08-17 11:40 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 11:44   ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 11:51     ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 16:32       ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 17:01         ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 17:15           ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 17:30             ` Btc Drak
2015-08-17 17:18       ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2015-08-17 19:14         ` Peter Todd
2015-08-17 17:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-08-17 19:03   ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-08-17 20:37     ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-18  5:16       ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-18  9:15       ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-08-18 11:52         ` Micha Bailey
2015-08-18 18:57         ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-18 20:59           ` Anon Moto
2015-08-19  1:03             ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2015-08-17 19:02 ` Anon Moto
2015-08-17 19:40   ` Marcel Jamin
2015-08-17 19:16 ` Hector Chu
2015-08-17 19:28   ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-17 19:39     ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 21:29 ` [bitcoin-dev] Incentives to run full nodes Peter Todd
2015-08-17 21:44   ` Chris Pacia
2015-08-18  0:20     ` Joseph Poon
2015-08-19  5:21     ` odinn
2015-10-04  6:46       ` odinn
2015-10-04  6:59         ` odinn
2015-08-19  2:54 ` [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork odinn
2015-08-19  2:59   ` Angel Leon
2015-08-17 20:24 Theo Chino
2015-08-18  4:56 ` Dave Scotese
2015-08-19  8:25 Btc Drak
2015-08-19 16:53 Adam Back
2015-08-19 17:22 ` Simon Liu
2015-08-19 18:13   ` Peter Todd
2015-08-19 23:37     ` Simon Liu
2015-08-19 17:28 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 17:32 ` Btc Drak
2015-08-19 18:20   ` Peter Todd
2015-08-19 19:15     ` Btc Drak
2015-08-19 19:32       ` odinn
2015-08-19 19:48         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-19 19:58           ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 20:04             ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-19 22:00               ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 23:07                 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-08-19 23:27                   ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 23:56                     ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-20  1:00                       ` GC
2015-08-20  1:17                         ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-20  0:08                     ` Eric Voskuil
2015-08-19 18:22   ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 19:12 ` Santino Napolitano
2015-08-19 19:28   ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-20  9:00 ` Mike Hearn
2015-08-20  9:13   ` Peter Todd
2015-08-21  3:01     ` odinn

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