From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org>
To: Cory Fields <lists@coryfields.com>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] UHS: Full-node security without maintaining a full UTXO set
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 16:56:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgTHTK8Dve9xHW9yULa1yObWtmwmeKKcD_BMjON=RAw8Sg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAApLimjfPKDxmiy_SHjuOKbfm6HumFPjc9EFKvw=3NwZO8JcmQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Cory Fields via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Tl;dr: Rather than storing all unspent outputs, store their hashes.
My initial thoughts are it's not _completely_ obvious to me that a 5%
ongoing bandwidth increase is actually a win to get something like a
40% reduction in the size of a pruned node (and less than a 1%
reduction in an archive node) primarily because I've not seen size of
a pruned node cited as a usage limiting factor basically anywhere. I
would assume it is a win but wouldn't be shocked to see a careful
analysis that concluded it wasn't.
But perhaps more interestingly, I think the overhead is not really 5%,
but it's 5% measured in the context of the phenomenally inefficient tx
mechanisms ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1377345.0 ).
Napkin math on the size of a txn alone tells me it's more like a 25%
increase if you just consider size of tx vs size of
tx+scriptpubkeys,amounts. If I'm not missing something there, I think
that would get in into a very clear not-win range.
On the positive side is that it doesn't change the blockchain
datastructure, so it's something implementations could do without
marrying the network to it forever.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-17 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-16 16:36 [bitcoin-dev] UHS: Full-node security without maintaining a full UTXO set Cory Fields
2018-05-17 15:28 ` Matt Corallo
2018-05-17 16:56 ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2018-05-17 17:16 ` Cory Fields
2018-06-07 9:39 ` Sjors Provoost
2018-06-10 23:07 ` Jim Posen
2018-05-18 15:42 ` Alex Mizrahi
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