From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5wA1-0000Bu-Ur for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:16:45 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of jamin.net designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.176; envelope-from=marcel@jamin.net; helo=mail-yk0-f176.google.com; Received: from mail-yk0-f176.google.com ([209.85.160.176]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z5wA0-0000bE-Ce for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:16:45 +0000 Received: by ykfr66 with SMTP id r66so91330792ykf.0 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 06:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L3YV21yP8AqwjCZ9DZzMM5AGOsF1xumJM5EssiqqMmA=; b=UMT4i3anVnacKBtbo18sV4/syjlLChM5aKohxknZCC2ahIv2kbhu2lWuRxdqI3253Q fwI6IUmNws8eajKhrvNuHWDPwHDbg6izPlmWPqFaltPhIcniVhyzPdlrofArBTGJqhWl 8+rhocJhJVOPnvr/nZe9ljOqohgcylVP4fq+6tPqRU6lYiFdSfkV4MrBpFlv5uU2depw oCJmfQtUhM9YQLNodgmcP5b9M7zTdAtMdbHYrdxXYMqMimNCzHowqP7sbrv7zm7zLqCF Z07OOtbbLR43bf5Z81N6oNa+eudpV1S2yKH3Sg2Joi09gp88NtXEkalqPZ0+u+w5iSZx FroA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmjouLVP7Zn6NP9V2+lwKR8epds+kb85ck+TtqvxWskGiK6gPf58bDvF3q3ckdzWeLnA1tR MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.126.13 with SMTP id s13mr19348716ykb.50.1434718080485; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 05:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.13.224.69 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 05:48:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <378F00E0-9F14-45E7-9395-B5C1324A81F2@gmail.com> References: <378F00E0-9F14-45E7-9395-B5C1324A81F2@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:48:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: Marcel Jamin To: Eric Lombrozo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113980408a64a40518de5555 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address X-Headers-End: 1Z5wA0-0000bE-Ce Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] improving development model (Re: Concerns Regarding Threats by a Developer to Remove Commit Access from Other Developers X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:16:46 -0000 --001a113980408a64a40518de5555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > At the risk of stating cliches, the Mac came before the Windows PC=E2=80= =A6Yahoo! came before Google=E2=80=A6MySpace came before Facebook=E2=80=A6 And TCP/IP came before... oh wait... 2015-06-19 14:02 GMT+02:00 Eric Lombrozo : > > On Jun 19, 2015, at 3:45 AM, Dr Adam Back wrote: > > That wont be good for the companies either, but they may not see that > until they've killed it, many companies operate on a1 or 2 year > time-horizon. They may say screw layer2, I have a runway and I need > micropayments to the wazoo and I dont have the dev resources for that. > > > Exactly, Adam. > > Except, I think the genie is out of the bottle - these ideas are too > powerful for them to be killed forever. They will probably survive even i= f > this scenario comes to pass=E2=80=A6but in a different network under a di= fferent > name=E2=80=A6and Bitcoin will be relegated to the history books and walls= of > museums. > > Most of the potential brainpower available on this Earth to make serious, > profound contributions to this movement haven=E2=80=99t even begun to tou= ch it. > Just because you happen to run a Bitcoin startup right now=E2=80=A6even i= f you=E2=80=99ve > received millions of dollars in funding=E2=80=A6don=E2=80=99t think that = the whole world > has low standards and is lazy! Someone WILL eventually build something > better than we can presently imagine. > > First mover advantage and the network effect are vastly overrated. At the > risk of stating cliches, the Mac came before the Windows PC=E2=80=A6Yahoo= ! came > before Google=E2=80=A6MySpace came before Facebook=E2=80=A6Bitcoin came b= efore know yet>. > > > - Eric Lombrozo > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --001a113980408a64a40518de5555 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=C2=A0At = the risk of stating cliches, the Mac came before the Windows PC=E2=80=A6Yah= oo! came before Google=E2=80=A6MySpace came before Facebook=E2=80=A6=

And TCP/IP came before... oh wait= ...

2015-06-19 14:02 GMT+02:00 Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com&g= t;:

On Jun 19, 2015, at 3:45 AM, = Dr Adam Back <= adam@cypherspace.org> wrote:

That wont be good for the companies either, but t= hey may not see that
until they've killed it, many companies operate on a1 o= r 2 year
time-horizon.=C2=A0 They may say screw layer2, I have a runway and I ne= ed
mi= cropayments to the wazoo and I dont have the dev resources for that.=

Exactly, Adam.

E= xcept, I think the genie is out of the bottle - these ideas are too powerfu= l for them to be killed forever. They will probably survive even if this sc= enario comes to pass=E2=80=A6but in a different network under a different n= ame=E2=80=A6and Bitcoin will be relegated to the history books and walls of= museums.

Most of the potential brainpower availab= le on this Earth to make serious, profound contributions to this movement h= aven=E2=80=99t even begun to touch it. Just because you happen to run a Bit= coin startup right now=E2=80=A6even if you=E2=80=99ve received millions of = dollars in funding=E2=80=A6don=E2=80=99t think that the whole world has low= standards and is lazy! Someone WILL eventually build something better than= we can presently imagine.

First mover advantage a= nd the network effect are vastly overrated. At the risk of stating cliches,= the Mac came before the Windows PC=E2=80=A6Yahoo! came before Google=E2=80= =A6MySpace came before Facebook=E2=80=A6Bitcoin came before <we don=E2= =80=99t know yet>.
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