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From: Marcel Jamin <marcel@jamin.net>
To: Anon Moto <daggerhashimoto@gmail.com>
Cc: slurms--- via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:40:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAUq484r4ivUDK6NAmSUtOZ+jW1a1gHOqc9mFEdiTZEaMFW9jg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH2CxRBwG6-cS9N4LYmXe4sjnB7uyyex6bEysP_4vH4BKH9u_A@mail.gmail.com>

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His account on that website was also compromised.

2015-08-17 21:02 GMT+02:00 Anon Moto via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>:

> Satoshi,
>
> As much as I want to believe this is you it's very difficult to ignore the
> fact that Vistomail could have been hacked and I'm currently speaking to a
> troll.
> Can you copy and paste what you wrote above, to
> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com as well, like how you did during the Dorian
> fiasco?
>
>
> Much appreciated.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing
>> list.  I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would
>> achieve widespread consensus.  However with the formal release of Bitcoin
>> XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my
>> concerns about this very dangerous fork.
>>
>> The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my
>> original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.  When I
>> designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future
>> modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous
>> agreement.  Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of
>> charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or
>> Satoshi Nakamoto.  Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have
>> to do it without being forced or pressured into it.  By doing a fork in
>> this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim
>> to honour.
>>
>> They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed
>> to be.  However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and
>> new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.
>> For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the
>> security of the network.  Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system
>> while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and
>> we should take more time to come up with a robust solution.  I suspect we
>> need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on
>> altruism.
>>
>> If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what
>> "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the
>> use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin
>> a failed project.  Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially
>> robust.  This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
>>
>> Satoshi Nakamoto
>>
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>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-17 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-15 17:43 [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork Satoshi Nakamoto
2015-08-15 19:08 ` Laszlo Hanyecz
2015-08-15 19:10 ` jl2012
2015-08-17 11:40 ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 11:44   ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 11:51     ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 16:32       ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 17:01         ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-17 17:15           ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 17:30             ` Btc Drak
2015-08-17 17:18       ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-17 19:14         ` Peter Todd
2015-08-17 17:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-08-17 19:03   ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-08-17 20:37     ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-18  5:16       ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-18  9:15       ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-08-18 11:52         ` Micha Bailey
2015-08-18 18:57         ` Oliver Egginger
2015-08-18 20:59           ` Anon Moto
2015-08-19  1:03             ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2015-08-17 19:02 ` Anon Moto
2015-08-17 19:40   ` Marcel Jamin [this message]
2015-08-17 19:16 ` Hector Chu
2015-08-17 19:28   ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-17 19:39     ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-17 21:29 ` [bitcoin-dev] Incentives to run full nodes Peter Todd
2015-08-17 21:44   ` Chris Pacia
2015-08-18  0:20     ` Joseph Poon
2015-08-19  5:21     ` odinn
2015-10-04  6:46       ` odinn
2015-10-04  6:59         ` odinn
2015-08-19  2:54 ` [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork odinn
2015-08-19  2:59   ` Angel Leon
2015-08-17 20:24 Theo Chino
2015-08-18  4:56 ` Dave Scotese
2015-08-19  8:25 Btc Drak
2015-08-19 16:53 Adam Back
2015-08-19 17:22 ` Simon Liu
2015-08-19 18:13   ` Peter Todd
2015-08-19 23:37     ` Simon Liu
2015-08-19 17:28 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 17:32 ` Btc Drak
2015-08-19 18:20   ` Peter Todd
2015-08-19 19:15     ` Btc Drak
2015-08-19 19:32       ` odinn
2015-08-19 19:48         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-19 19:58           ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 20:04             ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-19 22:00               ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 23:07                 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-08-19 23:27                   ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 23:56                     ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-20  1:00                       ` GC
2015-08-20  1:17                         ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-20  0:08                     ` Eric Voskuil
2015-08-19 18:22   ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-19 19:12 ` Santino Napolitano
2015-08-19 19:28   ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-20  9:00 ` Mike Hearn
2015-08-20  9:13   ` Peter Todd
2015-08-21  3:01     ` odinn

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