From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W3c7E-0005u8-6U for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:51:28 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1W3c7C-0006ed-Ki for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:51:28 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id l18so76060wgh.3 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:51:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QsPHuYJOW35c76B8jny6W1OAbpCBucUhfzlaQgwViK4=; b=dz8H1fjpTOwq7auLWclHDFXwBOk4j91G5n6xIrFE7IHciQcbvMGN4plcw2V3skEJrW pVQuS79xqomMbqPlYYq3gu7Rd4Qp+wIF9ph84XkWIPSsdIXyzhR+bHtAZ/AYbu3hsttZ KUSnOM5kQIGxm2Sh4KI4I6F8CAIo4Uy+zAjHix3e2cjxY05PqxW0DSUwcUhZuBqUPbkV BEeqPv8mhlD21FIzgStTuhoWw+YaD2Y+towmt4mkj3uFnxl2N/vv9gYGeI9iw1mIylhB yCMpGdW+OIm8ecT9YlSl67wetTmEdZc6OpIQ6buKb5wbktfL6Sza5JCw3Y5zRyFF8yit ssbg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmnk5eB+6t/vktAdLPTLbIw0eY2pvSVOJqZQx0Gwbau+RxHxNd0wK2WR+5FmMTotGQYTD9k X-Received: by 10.194.82.105 with SMTP id h9mr5317581wjy.52.1389833071403; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com (mail-wg0-f48.google.com [74.125.82.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm4688115wja.15.2014.01.15.16.44.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id x13so2474589wgg.15 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.20.15 with SMTP id j15mr5280565wie.4.1389833069425; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.114.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20140106120338.GA14918@savin> <20140110102037.GB25749@savin> <20140113133746.GI38964@giles.gnomon.org.uk> <20140114225321.GT38964@giles.gnomon.org.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:44:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Eric Martindale To: Jeremy Spilman Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f398567431504f00bba17 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1W3c7C-0006ed-Ki Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Stealth Addresses X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:51:28 -0000 --bcaec53f398567431504f00bba17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One variation of this, "recycled address", might avert misconceptions that the "re-use" is exclusive to one's own identity. Eric Martindale, relentless maker. http://www.ericmartindale.com +1 (919) 374-2020 | *BitMessage: *BM-2cWCmYBpV64FRSJpHHKWi1Cfc9W52jydwe *Note:* Beginning December 11th, 2013, I will only be intermittently available via email, SMS, and BitMessage. As a courtesy, please leave a detailed message so that I can respond in kind. Thanks! On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Jeremy Spilman wrote: > Might I propose "reusable address". > > I think that describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so > encourages wallets to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'. > > It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help drive adoption. The > feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted. > > I think it meets all the criteria required: > > - Communication between parties is a single message from the payee, > which may be public > - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkable on the > blockchain > - The payee has explicitly designated they expect to receive more than > one payment at that address > - Payer can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address > by revealing a secret > > I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* address reuse may > soon be a distant memory. > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik > wrote: > > "static address" seems like a reasonable attempt at describing intended > use/direction. > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben Davenport >> wrote: >> > But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address" to >> > something more neutral? >> >> ACK. Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stealth is a >> little cringe-worthy. >> >> "Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private-keys. >> >> "Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps improve >> awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-ness) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --bcaec53f398567431504f00bba17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One variation of this, "recycled address", might= avert misconceptions that the "re-use" is exclusive to one's= own identity.


Eric Martindale, relen= tless maker.
+1 (919) 374-2020=A0|=A0BitMessage:=A0BM-2cWCmYBpV64FRSJpHHKWi1Cfc9W52jyd= we
Note:=A0Beginning D= ecember 11th, 2013, I will only be intermittently available via email, SMS,= and BitMessage. =A0As a courtesy, please leave a detailed message so that = I can respond in kind. =A0Thanks!


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Jeremy = Spilman <jeremy@taplink.co> wrote:
Might I propose "reusable address".

I think that= describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so encourages walle= ts to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'.

It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help = drive adoption. The feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted.

= I think it meets all the criteria required:

=A0 - = Communication between parties is a single message from the payee, which may= be public
=A0 - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkable = on the blockchain
=A0 - The payee has explicitly designated they = expect to receive more than one payment at that address
=A0 - Pay= er can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address by reveal= ing a secret

I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* a= ddress reuse may soon be a distant memory.

=
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> wrot= e:
"static address" seems like a = reasonable attempt at describing intended use/direction.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben D= avenport <be= ndavenport@gmail.com> wrote:
> But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address&= quot; to
> something more neutral?

ACK. =A0Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stea= lth is a
little cringe-worthy.

"Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private= -keys.

"Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps impr= ove
=A0awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-n= ess)

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