From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2kkK-0007QQ-IB for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:29:04 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.171; envelope-from=ibrightly@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f171.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z2kkJ-0000Uu-DI for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:29:04 +0000 Received: by obbgp2 with SMTP id gp2so41250488obb.2 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.5.4 with SMTP id o4mr4013093obo.67.1433960935964; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.177.164 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <557869F9.8030109@AndySchroder.com> References: <1943127.DBnVxmfOIh@1337h4x0r> <20150610093556.GA11409@amethyst.visucore.com> <557869F9.8030109@AndySchroder.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:28:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ivan Brightly To: Andy Schroder Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134b02c35c8fd05182e0cc1 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (ibrightly[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Z2kkJ-0000Uu-DI Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Is SourceForge still trustworthy enough to host this list? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:29:04 -0000 --001a1134b02c35c8fd05182e0cc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I like elegant solutions and while eventually I can see a "pay to contribute" service, I don't imagine you'll get consensus in short order. List provider costs are pretty reasonable, so if that's the hurdle to overcome I'm happy to offer sponsorship. Ivan Brightly SolidX Partners On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Andy Schroder wrote: > Regarding changing the e-mail list provider. Is anyone interested in > sponsoring it? There are non-free options, but it may be difficult to > always ensure the fee is being paid to the provider. I think finding an > agreeable free solution may have been the issue before? I've also > thought of trying to make a pay per message or byte solution (and this > cost could be dynamic based upon the number of current mailing list > subscribers). This could solve the who pays problem (the sender pays), > as well as motivate people to be more concise and clear with their > messages, and at the same time limit spam. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Andy Schroder > > On 06/10/2015 05:35 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:25:12AM +0200, xor wrote: > >> > http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ > > All our downloads (even old ones) have recently been deleted from > sourceforge, for this reason. They haven't been mentioned in Bitcon Core > release announcements for a long time. > > > > No opinion on the mailing list. Though I think it's less urgent. The > issue of moving the mailinglist has come up before a few times and people > can't agree where to move to. > > > > Wladimir > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --001a1134b02c35c8fd05182e0cc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like elegant solutions and while eventually I can see a = "pay to contribute" service, I don't imagine you'll get c= onsensus in short order.

List provider costs are pretty = reasonable, so if that's the hurdle to overcome I'm happy to offer = sponsorship.

Ivan Brightly
SolidX Partners

On = Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Andy Schroder <info@andyschroder.com> wrote:
Regarding changing t= he e-mail list provider. Is anyone interested in
sponsoring it? There are non-free options, but it may be difficult to
always ensure the fee is being paid to the provider. I think finding an
agreeable free solution may have been the issue before? I've also
thought of trying to make a pay per message or byte solution (and this
cost could be dynamic based upon the number of current mailing list
subscribers). This could solve the who pays problem (the sender pays),
as well as motivate people to be more concise and clear with their
messages, and at the same time limit spam.



Any thoughts?

Andy Schroder

On 06/10/2015 05:35 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:25:12AM +0200, xor wrote:
>> ht= tp://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-= sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/
> All our downloads (even old ones) have recently been deleted from sour= ceforge, for this reason. They haven't been mentioned in Bitcon Core re= lease announcements for a long time.
>
> No opinion on the mailing list. Though I think it's less urgent. T= he issue of moving the mailinglist has come up before a few times and peopl= e can't agree where to move to.
>
> Wladimir
>
>
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