From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 262D272A for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:15:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-yw0-f175.google.com (mail-yw0-f175.google.com [209.85.161.175]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD196FD for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f175.google.com with SMTP id p77so48401720ywg.1 for ; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 06:15:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jZyVJ2ChiwPItjdrEMA6saNVclW8S180ETnIVdK0HIs=; b=Fib51ywVEgqPwRY6wOssRFc6XLpj9Dp/I285j/e04IugX3ynVt0ft3+aMBfGtY0qQ4 tA6RxNUGUF4TmqIcq7camGjGD+HU5K9eAue5PdvnyHGiagpfOoUdTLPEMDx+3f9Oi41r fMOEZiM4Y9H9WmzY88XKQjo6Fsb/x7zBf6iifvB+G9fvCd2m0uhXp6XCeOAeTPydgt7k rwIxwCeWgbcx61jMeDXJC8tjMRbhXnh3BSXl30P7a5pUfb4UlMAf72qHSofZNcaJjhdz JdOTAlbI9OEBxU7ou3igj+c4CzjK2rd/MiRa/4rbICAC0AJI0pJbsMdeoVaFPvdd0nRg y/ZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jZyVJ2ChiwPItjdrEMA6saNVclW8S180ETnIVdK0HIs=; b=TeMUPTsU340/Ey79+iC+j4veGJkeS1/ly2H9AXGelIKF6L7ENyPVfC7pAzsZRRglWE Mhl5CmU3v9N6DrBhl2KF5L7HIQBYs+rfmV8X3bXgwlhMHOdbC+rsStmp+oIiSMm1k3kk S1E3ZNXQzgDyOlwcYCJaVdEOa8AnZDcldOeoP8Xh8qT97DKfKNPjhdvccCkxU3PeIYjp YwF7WTngo6SsAABxpOH/56ElcFfqVNpr8yGvTgGEqK6vo9738O8y9IVkV5dhB65EwVol 6JpGXhok+uQTvxfe2S2aUJkynkyKk0TT+yWJgEjt/q04xbcvH9NKa1//w1vVD5VQszBt iArA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0z7/U3GFJCzGQHiL7oy6iTEuo0B05OIDEyuFKXwpEVglh5vSMKw8tZ0E8rTGwH3nAQKALYsjKAuPXN8g== X-Received: by 10.13.199.196 with SMTP id j187mr5730029ywd.197.1491052515962; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.123.135 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.123.135 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1CF1FD5D-8D29-4783-823F-B3F588D5C5CE@mattcorallo.com> From: Natanael Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 15:15:15 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= , Bitcoin Dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114e602c8e3aa9054c1ab7e2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Segwit2Mb - combined soft/hard fork - Request For Comments X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:15:17 -0000 --001a114e602c8e3aa9054c1ab7e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Den 1 apr. 2017 14:33 skrev "Jorge Tim=C3=B3n via bitcoin-dev" < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>: Segwit replaces the 1 mb size limit with a weight limit of 4 mb. That would make it a hardfork, not a softfork, if done exactly as you say. Segwit only separates out signature data. The 1 MB limit remains, but would now only cover the contents of the transaction scripts. With segwit that means we have two (2) size limits, not one. This is important to remember. Even with segwit + MAST for large complex scripts, there's still going to be a very low limit to the total number of possible transactions per block. And not all transactions will get the same space savings. --001a114e602c8e3aa9054c1ab7e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Den 1 apr. 2017 14:33 skrev "Jorge Tim=C3=B3n via bi= tcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>:
Segwit replaces the 1 mb size limit with a weight li= mit of 4 mb.=C2=A0

That would make it a hardfork, not a softfork, if done exactl= y as you say.=C2=A0

Segw= it only separates out signature data. The 1 MB limit remains, but would now= only cover the contents of the transaction scripts. With segwit that means= we have two (2) size limits, not one. This is important to remember. Even = with segwit + MAST for large complex scripts, there's still going to be= a very low limit to the total number of possible transactions per block. A= nd not all transactions will get the same space savings.=C2=A0
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