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From: Natanael <natanael.l@gmail.com>
To: Erik Aronesty <erik@q32.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Small Nodes: A Better Alternative to Pruned Nodes
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 21:10:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAt2M1_TH=1Xw=65QxxCHMZzE-fzC3UhRaEk+KkKY2SHkN6CbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJowKg+UTKeU0Dj5pJbtw+LZtO9kn5LBJum9Akd11zCsW+6o4Q@mail.gmail.com>

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Den 3 maj 2017 16:05 skrev "Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>:

> But as you've observed, the failure probabilities are rather high,
> especially if an active attacker targets nodes carrying less commonly
> available blocks.

Wouldn't the solution be for nodes to use whatever mechanism an attacker
uses to determine less commonly available blocks and choose to store a
random percentage of them as well as their deterministic random set?

IE X blocks end of chain (spv bootstrap), Y% deterministic random set,  Z%
patch/fill set to deter attacks


Then he uses Sybil attacks to obscure what's actually rare and not. Even
proof of storage isn't enough, you need proof of INDEPENDENT storage, which
is essentially impossible, as well as a way of determining which nodes are
run by the same people (all the AWS nodes should essentially count as one).

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-03 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-17  6:54 [bitcoin-dev] Small Nodes: A Better Alternative to Pruned Nodes David Vorick
2017-04-17  7:11 ` Danny Thorpe
2017-04-17  7:27   ` David Vorick
2017-04-20 15:50   ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-20 23:42     ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-04-21 13:35   ` David Kaufman
2017-04-21 15:58     ` Leandro Coutinho
2017-04-17 10:14 ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-04-19 17:30   ` David Vorick
2017-04-20  9:46     ` Tom Zander
2017-04-20 20:32       ` Andrew Poelstra
2017-04-21  8:27         ` Tom Zander
2017-04-20 11:27     ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-04-18  7:43 ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-04-18 10:50 ` Tom Zander
2017-04-18 13:07   ` Tier Nolan
2017-04-18 23:19     ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-04-19  4:28       ` udevNull
2017-04-19 13:47         ` Angel Leon
2017-04-21 20:38 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-23 16:27   ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-05-03 14:03   ` Erik Aronesty
2017-05-03 19:10     ` Natanael [this message]
2017-05-03 22:45       ` Aymeric Vitte

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