From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4cMX-000371-7T for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:56:13 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=kanzure@gmail.com; helo=mail-la0-f52.google.com; Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z4cMW-00048g-6C for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:56:13 +0000 Received: by lacny3 with SMTP id ny3so46812528lac.3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:56:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.13.97 with SMTP id g1mr2139500lbc.52.1434405365756; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.18.168 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Bryan Bishop To: Mike Hearn , Bryan Bishop Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3b2084a392f05189586da X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kanzure[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Z4cMW-00048g-6C Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork & non-consensus hard-fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:56:13 -0000 --001a11c3b2084a392f05189586da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > Re: anyone who agrees with noted non-programmers Mike&Gavin must be > non-technical, stupid, uninformed, etc .... OK, go ahead and show them the > error of their ways. Anyone can write blogs. > I worry that if this is the level of care you take with reading and (mis)interpreting Adam's messages, that you might not be taking extreme care with evaluating consensus changes, even while tired or sleeping. I encourage you to evaluate both messages and source code more carefully, especially in the world of bitcoin. However, this goes for everyone and not just you. Specifically, when Adam mentioned your conversations with non-technical people, he did not mean "Mike has talked with people who have possibly not made pull requests to Bitcoin Core, so therefore Mike is a non-programmer". Communication is difficult and I can understand that, but we really have to be more careful when evaluating each other's messages; technical miscommunication can be catastrophic in this context. On the topic of whether you are a programmer, I suspect that ever since you built CIA.vc we have all known you're a programmer, Mike. - Bryan http://heybryan.org/ 1 512 203 0507 --001a11c3b2084a392f05189586da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On M= on, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrot= e:
Re: anyone who agrees with noted non-programmer= s Mike&Gavin must be non-technical, stupid, uninformed, etc .... OK, go= ahead and show them the error of their ways. Anyone can write blogs.
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I worry that if this is the level of= care you take with reading and (mis)interpreting Adam's messages, that= you might not be taking extreme care with evaluating consensus changes, ev= en while tired or sleeping. I encourage you to evaluate both messages and s= ource code more carefully, especially in the world of bitcoin. However, thi= s goes for everyone and not just you. Specifically, when Adam mentioned you= r conversations with non-technical people, he did not mean "Mike has t= alked with people who have possibly not made pull requests to Bitcoin Core,= so therefore Mike is a non-programmer". Communication is difficult an= d I can understand that, but we really have to be more careful when evaluat= ing each other's messages; technical miscommunication can be catastroph= ic in this context. On the topic of whether you are a programmer, I suspect= that ever since you built CIA.vc we have all known you're a programmer= , Mike.

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