From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B26F613C1 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:54:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1323821F for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicge5 with SMTP id ge5so91946081wic.0 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:54:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LLixDTFPbbGczHpt+rx6MxhkgXOCtFaQXBkt0VKSyTE=; b=C11LGApix6+KVeEn38FE8SAgxPOLOE5AdB8moyqivMEI19X6UYx9GKDezLXppxYIO5 9DIHOSeRzq9XZ+AKb3fs19OiDBBCEXxypOTJhZVAOPDZV5ImLpNotlJE4gS1+H72ObQA UxGYsRXleIgMEznUKOHqZEX+VfQXd7CfeFDntiwYCJM2eqJKK9/qDwVjDph/Ow2QLPsg UDXcHl5lmKlVMsh3iu3KMlVOoGRePzHsRChuVwbyQQMsrmu4eKprIwPFm3s0lWDgIjr2 u6xl/O/2q+btmg4yLcNfAlA3dCO/a9IWh7twpYAL7xt5lzIntmGv59stSRmFTS6b5U2A 290w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk08txYFt0IGYfajfb+26OInbL8mbaWLKZXH1oAuqwiBAD8/nvWoE0HBB/IS/toqDRAmZR3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.102.195 with SMTP id fq3mr422790wib.7.1442436896839; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.37.5 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.37.5 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87mvwqb132.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <87r3lyjewl.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:54:56 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= To: Tier Nolan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04447df9d8f075051fe38298 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,URIBL_BLACK autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Proposal] Version bits with timeout and delay. X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:54:58 -0000 --f46d04447df9d8f075051fe38298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sep 16, 2015 4:49 PM, "Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev" < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wrot= e: >> >> No, 95% is safer and will produce less orphaned blocks. > > The point of the 75% is just as a test run. Enforcement wouldn't happen until 95%. > > At 75%, if someone sets the bit, then they should be creating valid blocks (under the rule). You shouldn't rely on that, some may start applying the restrictions in their own blocks at 0% and others only at 90%. Until it becomes a consensus rule it is just part of the standard policy (and we shouldn't rely on nodes following the standard policy). > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > --f46d04447df9d8f075051fe38298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sep 16, 2015 4:49 PM, "Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo= undation.org> wrote:
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> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc= > wrote:
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>> No, 95% is safer and will produce less orphaned blocks.
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> The point of the 75% is just as a test run.=C2=A0 Enforcement wouldn&#= 39;t happen until 95%.
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> At 75%, if someone sets the bit, then they should be creating valid bl= ocks (under the rule).

You shouldn't rely on that, some may start applying the = restrictions in their own blocks at 0% and others only at 90%. Until it bec= omes a consensus rule it is just part of the standard policy (and we should= n't rely on nodes following the standard policy).
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