From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF4BA83D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:21:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22633144 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbfr1 with SMTP id fr1so255316obb.1 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:21:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mr/U1t/YnneuwZdqw/SWkqs4oZP2QO7TFeMkB3Q+M0o=; b=O4feQMyLdPoTvXjGDcCz4tfwoBux+Ll71TIuIifyeMswxC7kpSPPEE8a+avO44bFI3 G3LIanihxIfd91Vm8wpNR8VEm6lztwkM8nlbWw/sVwTEjYXL1jyttWYQuXsPPStEY3ff Vcj5eMkPPDqmZgEaigC5DtbTDijMmuj0EwxoCLh4CiIPgyytXMlquYv0dtPPT2Lu2R4Q cMZPaqOyhSSuyMDQRqZHmpyLa5eMslm+Slmcn8BRCqdCSAsFh1ChIsiYNdCGXzCe4Tg5 Jk8LIP402B1QFshqvV54DlWD2r4EqxP+sL0zN7g01Cy37tebX0SIZfoKqKRNuExCeWhA LaBw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbR+qCpHCujnrORg0KrF9Pu88nTskDyZ1QqUHs7d8BxQm1ynCf7coj9AgBSCyuLuXjEbkc MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.76.69 with SMTP id i5mr9849546oew.42.1439979717486; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.71.85 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:21:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:21:57 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= To: Btc Drak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Separated bitcoin-consensus mailing list (was Re: Bitcoin XT Fork) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:21:58 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Btc Drak wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wrot= e: >> >> Apparently that existed already: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailma= n/ >> But technical people run away from noise while non-technical people >> chase them wherever their voices sounds more loud. > > > Regarding disruptors, if there are clear rules about what is acceptable o= n > -dev, one can simply moderate out offenders. It's absolutely necessary we > have a forum where we can share and discuss purely academic and technical > matters. No-one can accuse censorship because all moderation would say wo= uld > be to "take it to the other list". It's essential for all people who are > developing and maintaining Bitcoin protocol software, or services that re= ly > on it. The mailing list used to be very low volume. I don't disagree with anything you have said. But I think that having a list specific to Bitcoin Core development will make defining the "clear rules" easier. > While we are at it, we should also think about a bitcoin-announce read on= ly > list which consumers of Bitcoin Core can subscribe for announcements abou= t > new versions of Bitcoin Core, and any critical warnings. Miners and servi= ce > providers would particularly benefit from this. The list is moderated so > only say Bitcoin Core commit engineers are allowed to post. Not sure if necessary but not opposed to this either. >> One thing that I would like though, is separating Bitcoin >> Core-specific development from general bips and consensus discussions. > > > The potential downside is too much separation becomes confusing although = I > would not oppose such a change. My own suggestion would be try just a -de= v > and -discuss list and see how that goes first. It used to work well. > Whatever the case I am very confident we need a general discussion mailin= g > list. As said, that list already exists, it's just that nobody uses it: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/