From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9CAADD0 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:56:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-vk0-f49.google.com (mail-vk0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AD6313E for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a189so97800789vkh.2 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:56:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jtimon-cc.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zwQGFkZjNz52BM6JAF4wbDnmmAJwiw5zstKhjg9RQsk=; b=tfyxPz5V6zohwLBftNjFTJQ50wCQcRWSPzkv6LO1wrNVAphntjxluuegjLVfOwbpOO 5sAC5FhuVUEF3IGSr43Jn00kVFqiWn6rbXHW8oXm2Xhh7LjAGsXIpOqgVWiX+dytTtwL zLr5p67E68/BtMfXmJVlo295ULyAUc2uIvQxKyfBBit7foSsuCH7Te8FXC/k+fsgMHSg wrnHQ995tIufIddDnkV6Ftlg790chqlBOA7mML+HME0upKeKF4ET8hUSS/Cw+F6IuCDk +Rqx9LEKsiYcECv5LQprR/DtcIZrPDONry5KjC2iGWWAgmdfMws6uKUq2g/vGhyKNHq+ hm7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zwQGFkZjNz52BM6JAF4wbDnmmAJwiw5zstKhjg9RQsk=; b=LaOFo0dkF9IbYOOgC0Irpvp+cWY23VDjb1+6dk+kr9Ch1FZnWlB6bZ9WvxQLscW9yF +MBwmkhGpNu7b43YYqxl2DwUWJCJDbQirNUDpWacaw20/aUosvIMdkfFvyl0y2/5QOKa +fKhIAnFkBUafLB0qdYcveLPNlCRZt1930DI4eAX9GFzSo5MA2/cueShQNeEfosiB/oR jccvsYbm6H1hNmM3AfJSAOeEOfUzWgvI9Y48f/hqGGmwviuB/43tvQFVMJC/DHUTDXqb f//Wszzzvp0Asx5Qh+15RNfUKjLnGemrHfCK6LKGDSX+62xavOS4QycsXYcXbzFGPMiY oN2w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl2aUk73UZqQQsRlUCYoh3CP8dXEPzSzDiHV6GnXnPGMlKnu0njW5F4Jquxd4Pu1zPjnH3B6hLM+t+AIRhWQ5Hpeglyvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.154.213 with SMTP id c204mr12094552vke.38.1450691815198; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.236.70 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:56:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151221080747.GA24839@sapphire.erisian.com.au> References: <20151208110752.GA31180@amethyst.visucore.com> <20151221080747.GA24839@sapphire.erisian.com.au> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:56:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= To: Anthony Towns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system. X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:56:56 -0000 To clarify, although I have defended the deployment of segwit as a hardfork, I have no strong opinion on whether to do that or do it as a softfork first and then do a hardfork to move things out of the coinbase to a better place. I have a strong opinion against never doing the later hardfork though. I would have supported segwit for Bitcoin even if it was only possible as a hardfork, but there's a softfork version and that will hopefully accelerate its deployment. Since the plan seems to be to do a softfork first and a hardfork moving the witness tree (and probably more things) outside of the coinbase later, I support the plan for segwit deployment. In fact, the plan is very exciting to me.