From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2D9DDEA for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:28:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C37DE3 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbtg9 with SMTP id tg9so11379686lbb.1 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Pw4+P/ZnLhjtS2ORXsmEZA17RP5VJpRIOoRm0T0d54E=; b=ZoQDOYpu1UfgHS9mtvA+ix99nGSkSVy1FRVihv2SKaa+nN3jWnCPZhe/0o3YUezksl MN+OqjQPkPGgw3qO08PQJYoRnUC8JTgDwDDC5sWv2VqXXm+okFmALNN8rW9s6aSafe/T AQqXx70IxetJ9DgPNpDkazf5zq7B83HMalc9SDLy1uZIrSJOZcIUYTMGHCSOJuHY9fjk 3NQRj8A3t0NvDg99fo0O5Jd7gAqOR7xtWlO+LHZLofNXnrHiSCr6wW4nS6o07S7B1aHE 8diiWW8ZN4Ar/AFIIPztrNi5dm33hjS0qQpSuBnUmTSwKVRKSae9H+ckGj/mj+u/wQ5C PkAQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.5.135 with SMTP id s7mr2177030las.75.1440682109280; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.62.14 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:28:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: Gavin Andresen To: prabhat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d1dea5baa28051e4af12c X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPS proposal for implementing AML-KYC in bitcoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:28:32 -0000 --089e013d1dea5baa28051e4af12c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Have you talked with anybody at the Bitcoin Foundation about this proposal? As Chief Scientist of the Foundation, I am strongly opposed to any proposal that puts the Foundation in a position of centralized authority, so this is unacceptable: "The Bitcoin Foundation will act as fair play party and enforcement body to control the misuse of vast financial powers which bitcoin has." The idea that a central organization can be trusted to keep secrets secure is just fundamentally wrong. In the very recent past we have seen government organizations fail in that task (the NSA, the OPM) and we see commercial organizations that SHOULD be highly motivated to do a good job also fail (e.g. the Ashley Madison leak). Even if it were technically possible, I would be opposed because decentralization is a bedrock principle of Bitcoin. -- -- Gavin Andresen --089e013d1dea5baa28051e4af12c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you talked with anybody at the Bitcoin Foundation abo= ut this proposal?

As Chief Scientist of the Foundation, = I am strongly opposed to any proposal that puts the Foundation in a positio= n of centralized authority, so this is unacceptable: "The Bitcoin Foun= dation will act as fair play party and enforcement body to control the misu= se of vast financial powers which bitcoin has."

The idea that a central organization can be trusted to keep secrets secu= re is just fundamentally wrong. In the very recent past we have seen govern= ment organizations fail in that task (the NSA, the OPM) and we see commerci= al organizations that SHOULD be highly motivated to do a good job also fail= (e.g. the Ashley Madison leak).

Even if it were t= echnically possible, I would be opposed because decentralization is a bedro= ck principle of Bitcoin.

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Gavin Andresen
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