From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FAE8D15 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2016 15:50:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-lf0-f47.google.com (mail-lf0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8BAF171 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2016 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i124so9837333lfe.3 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:50:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Bw+SG0464yPX2odGKHtUXJVsQ63tQOdaDSXIxw2ETbs=; b=QS1XFLVa+n1HpPkADkDNfzVygINdKLFkS/lxTPTTUZDm/20aS7p1CM/UHbIQUr7Onn pvpLKpy7H87ykIeg8orRXXjW/xlC+oqGRbLp6kiBphw4mmDq+9rwCg/5u+rps1ImxIyq 4EuCrfK/ony0NPNdlvtPlnA/I1u9X5nimWRxGxNUpx0jT2XQKkSndx/tc9fD1BdVr7hd i26UR0PdhNJAZ2YCYWYcTCFrZRjcAk8l3NAJiNL1gVXWA1QgMsNPi1GAxKsJEty/wrJJ p7gYvx561GdRivDAoMkefdVjRqPhY818vLMcw25wWJCSbAfOsCFIwPtE4OYIuk41ayL0 JG/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.134.130 with SMTP id i124mr30699574lfd.63.1452268206121; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.25.78 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jan 2016 07:50:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8760z4rbng.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <8737u8qnye.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <20160108153329.GA15731@sapphire.erisian.com.au> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Gavin Andresen To: Bitcoin Dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fb2e88b71cf0528d48ae4 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:40:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Time to worry about 80-bit collision attacks or not? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:50:08 -0000 --001a113fb2e88b71cf0528d48ae4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 And to fend off the messag that I bet somebody is composing right now: Yes, I know about a "security first" mindset. But as I said earlier in the thread, there is a tradeoff here between crypto strength and code complexity, and "the strength of the crypto is all that matters" is NOT security first. -- -- Gavin Andresen --001a113fb2e88b71cf0528d48ae4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And to fend off the messag that I bet somebody is composin= g right now:

Yes, I know about a "security first&qu= ot; mindset.=C2=A0 But as I said earlier in the thread, there is a tradeoff= here between crypto strength and code complexity, and "the strength o= f the crypto is all that matters" is NOT security first.

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