From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gavinandresen@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D656F486 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:22:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C410C176 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by labow3 with SMTP id ow3so19165111lab.1 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:22:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1fxlZv3H1RBAis/2sT4tjzcSgAAG0wiJJwpaGmNgtT4=; b=Abi3b8LxJHD4Rjbh54qQasyZDSO8xH9CrCg7bgDdmg1aCdXxSd3popZCNKtOHkGxKJ 7o/2RUc5CZW5uqHATXyr/7xiLVY4e4xFK1Tq2PfbY4E+iqa+imGMi7sSe9at8KD4w0+A 9gfBMd/So2Ql3HZQWxBC70bGpBGewDweyUIPB557HDkK+rgnajQ8vm4cVzgf+LaHAQ2t kQZZIhNzrzQ2BPDZH0/CIAB1fey2jKvg1GEA5kLL6g4UxsmNeVhNLp77g5g/feWszuMq MA7pQH2ZedL8JH+SBUtJDyR2Gugnxi9A/ol6FoF3gooPZnyXgyemgwEHGT+Z9PHPG4N7 0BWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.115.199 with SMTP id jq7mr17492469lab.113.1438615334055; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.143.195 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 11:22:14 -0400 Message-ID: <CABsx9T1E1s=4h-SxLTOAXK4GniZrUekcEb6zDdTDFG+h7X98MA@mail.gmail.com> From: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> To: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2588ef475fe051c69bb5e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance" X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:22:21 -0000 --001a11c2588ef475fe051c69bb5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I haven't seen this excellent recent blog post by Eli Dourado referenced here: https://readplaintext.com/how-should-bitcoin-be-governed-680192fcd92b I agree with his conclusions: we need better communication/organization mechanisms among 'stakeholders' and between the various factions (developers, miners, merchants, exchanges, end-users). And the preliminary results of using a prediction market to try to wrestle with the tough tradeoffs looks roughly correct to me, too: https://blocksizedebate.com/ (my only big disagreement with those predictions is the 'Number of nodes' -- I don't think replace-by-fee would affect that number, and I think even with no change we will see the number of full nodes on the network drop to a couple thousand, because the general-purpose-home-PC is headed the way of the dodo: http://www.businessinsider.com/pc-sales-plummet-in-q2-2015-gartner-idc-say-2015-7 ). -- -- Gavin Andresen --001a11c2588ef475fe051c69bb5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">I haven't seen this excellent recent blog post by Eli = Dourado referenced here:<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://readplaintext.c= om/how-should-bitcoin-be-governed-680192fcd92b">https://readplaintext.com/h= ow-should-bitcoin-be-governed-680192fcd92b</a></div><div><br></div><div>I a= gree with his conclusions: we need better communication/organization mechan= isms among 'stakeholders' and between the various factions (develop= ers, miners, merchants, exchanges, end-users).</div><div><br></div><div>And= the preliminary results of using a prediction market to try to wrestle wit= h the tough tradeoffs looks roughly correct to me, too:</div><div>=C2=A0 = =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://blocksizedebate.com/">https://blocksizedebate.com/= </a><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><div>(my only big disagreement with th= ose predictions is the 'Number of nodes' -- I don't think repla= ce-by-fee would affect that number, and I think even with no change we will= see the number of full nodes on the network drop to a couple thousand, bec= ause the general-purpose-home-PC is headed the way of the dodo: <a href=3D"= http://www.businessinsider.com/pc-sales-plummet-in-q2-2015-gartner-idc-say-= 2015-7">http://www.businessinsider.com/pc-sales-plummet-in-q2-2015-gartner-= idc-say-2015-7</a> ).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class= =3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Gavin Andresen<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_sign= ature"><br></div> </div></div> --001a11c2588ef475fe051c69bb5e--