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From: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
To: Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Proposal] Version bits with timeout and delay.
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:01:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABsx9T3pFAbtOv78uwaoToHWRXQGwmHA_h8KR89X2HLxiose5g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5602F075.4000102@thinlink.com>

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I say keep it simple.

If the 75% threshold is hit, then support suddenly drops off below 50%,
"meh" -- there will be a big ruckus, everybody will freak out, and miners
will refuse to build big blocks because they'll worry that they'll get
orphaned.

Adding more complexity for a case that ain't gonna happen (and isn't a
disaster if it does) is a mistake, in my humble opinion.



On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On 9/13/2015 11:56 AM, Rusty Russell via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>
>> '''Success: Activation Delay'''
>> The consensus rules related to ''locked-in'' soft fork will be enforced in
>> the second retarget period; ie. there is a one retarget period in
>> which the remaining 5% can upgrade.  At the that activation block and
>> after, the bit B may be reused for a different soft fork.
>>
>>
> Rather than a simple one-period delay, should there be a one-period
> "burn-in" to show sustained support of the threshold?  During this period,
> support must continuously remain above the threshold.  Any lapse resets to
> inactivated state.
>
> With a simple delay, you can have the embarrassing situation where support
> falls off during the delay period and there is far below threshold support
> just moments prior to enforcement, but enforcement happens anyway.
>
> BIP 101 has this problem too.
>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-23 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-13 18:56 [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Proposal] Version bits with timeout and delay Rusty Russell
2015-09-16 15:53 ` Btc Drak
2015-09-16 17:53 ` Tier Nolan
2015-09-16 20:19   ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-16 20:27     ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-16 20:32       ` Tier Nolan
2015-09-16 20:38         ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-16 20:48           ` Tier Nolan
2015-09-16 20:54             ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-16 20:57               ` Tier Nolan
2015-09-16 21:03                 ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-16 22:52                   ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-09-17 10:38                     ` Tier Nolan
2015-09-17 13:59                       ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-17 21:57                       ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-17 22:00           ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-19  5:04             ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-20  3:56               ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-21  8:24                 ` Jorge Timón
2015-09-21 10:34                   ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-16 20:30     ` Tier Nolan
2015-09-18  1:19       ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-23 18:33 ` Tom Harding
2015-09-23 19:01   ` Gavin Andresen [this message]
2015-09-30  2:05   ` Rusty Russell
2015-09-30 23:41     ` Tom Harding

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