> Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and give a reason for Russ as well.With respect Steve the process for Vasil was keeping Vasil's PR open for up to 5 months with zero NACKs and two maintainers refusing to engage on why it wasn't being merged or what it needed for it to be merged. Followed by a later justification for blocking it that they've refused to discuss whether it applies to Russ.The process for Russ was the maintainers deciding privately there was a need for a maintainer "who understood our interfaces and modularization efforts well" and his PR was merged within 2 days.If that's the same process to you I don't know what to say. We have different perspectives on what constitutes a decision process.(I'm sure this is clear but just to reiterate in case it isn't none of this is a criticism of Russ.)ThanksMichael--
Michael FolksonGPG: A2CF5D71603C92010659818D2A75D601B23FEE0FLearn about Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/@portofbitcoin------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 17:36, Steve Lee <steven.j.lee@gmail.com> wrote:
Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and give a reason for Russ as well.On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:55 AM Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@protonmail.com> wrote:Hi Steve> Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors) can express their view in this PR? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604Nope. The extent to which the rationale for blocking Vasil as a maintainer applies or doesn't apply to ryanofsky (or future potential maintainers) isn't discussed. From now on the precedent is proposed maintainers can be blocked for unknown and/or potentially inconsistent reasons by the existing maintainers.ThanksMichael--
Michael FolksonGPG: A2CF5D71603C92010659818D2A75D601B23FEE0FLearn about Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/@portofbitcoin------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 03:44, Steve Lee via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors) can express their view in this PR? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03 AM Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:_______________________________________________On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will
> decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.
This is how a large percentage of organizations are run. The current
members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a
new board member.
Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is also a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the bitcoin protocol in general:
https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/
https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427- Bryan
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