From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WwbKV-0007DI-La for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:08:27 +0000 Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WwbKT-0002l6-Mv for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:08:27 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ty20so851271lab.25 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:08:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dD1lUMMWCYlH19KNWYTVRTlmcnxKFbCxpbDeKxwK71M=; b=My3sYuTvKSfgUf4DOnBf1zPjrp5Jm7Bo4Ld49t/K8swBGFjMplmlgRv+4oGhPSmkwW qciHaoa339l2MLWnjWjJQmgNRd640HNzMu8Cvbh22UZM+4noqNyboRvG+Z7ks7LrFfEg A8xO5ZVNQt39CrwmmAg6kc5Ju25ixuU3q068GqWlAZvZCnSquMszBSd6DrekVEWzI3QT 1vIrOxAPP9tycJwJ0Pz+pdCWdtC0W+W99JF7J1PCenkWs7MB5scK5qLxlA8DbN7WD6aq oBFIsRegZsm4A71LpHHCDZV/98Ti7/DyA92XoUsDYX+cjaHSEFhOpgNaLBLT5ymS78v9 YUtw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQltRnmnHPEl7HMqjdhWeLkajyGMcJb+ASW8ibR3bwTjmemEhsNyx4nWkMxuR26+y0KWxShV MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.136.2 with SMTP id pw2mr13779182lbb.13.1402940674016; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.185.4 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:44:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [85.59.140.152] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:44:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1WwbKT-0002l6-Mv Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Lawrence Nahum Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:08:27 -0000 On 6/16/14, Mike Hearn wrote: > If they decide to change to something like highest-fee-always-wins, then > they (again) centralise things by forcing all instant transactions to pay > GreenAddress and its competitors money - much though I like your product > Lawrence, let's hope they don't collectively lemming us all off a cliff by > doing that ;) Replace-by-fee doesn't imply the use of green addresses (there's other solutions to 0 conf transactions in that context, for example, "scorched earth"). And giving up the non-enforceable first-seen default mining policy doesn't mean "giving up on the Bitcoin experiment" either.