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From: Walter Stanish <walter@stani.sh>
To: "Jorge Timón" <timon.elviejo@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:26:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACwuEiMu1iMnrv2zubqUugSwxu_jWmNxJtPuhdNoqJPgRHhKhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGQP0AFD9q+=vZPod_n_LJjCjzVnVy5w3hq4N07JZRM6=Ly-FQ@mail.gmail.com>

>> Why don't just...
>>
>> bitcoin://url.without.explicitly.specifying.provider
>> bitcoin://alias@provider
>> bitcoin://IIBAN@authorizedBitcoinInstitution ??

> Andy sounded very convincing when talking in favor of URLs. What's
> wrong with his proposal?

A URI identifies a resource and is in effect an alias itself.
Identifying a resource is different from interacting with it. So,
while <resource-type>://<resource-type-specific-alias> will work
sufficiently for the identification, it does not explain the
interaction.

Interaction is a requirement, since there seems to be a widely felt
need to preserve anonymity through the use of temporary addresses.
Generating a temporary address requires some actual processing to
achieve, since the issuing of the new address cannot be done without
interacting with the entity hosting the wallet (unless I'm missing
something?).

> By the way, I don't like the fact that a single authorized institution
> needs to map the IIBANs to bitcoin addresses.

This is not the case. Please read my earlier response to Gavin and the
IIBAN specification itself to clarify.  That would be a total breach
of privacy since the entity would have access to financial information
on all transactions using the IIBAN identifiers... prior to
transactions being executed.

It *is* true that under the current IIBAN proposal there would be one
entity (IANA) in charge of issuing namespace portions ('institution
codes' - probably best to rename these...), however:
 - The policy is strict and something similar to 'give one out to
anyone except existing financial instutions with the pre-existing
capacity to issue IBAN'.
 - IANA have a pretty reasonable track record
 - This suggestion, like the entire proposal, is open for discussion
and modification.  If you can think of a more efficient and fair way
of assigning namespace prefixes to random entities on the internet
that doesn't require someone *without* an established track record of
doing this for the internet community to take up IANA's place, then
I'd be happy to hear it. Whilst a bitcoin-like 'community consensus'
system is conceivably possible to deploy in its place, I don't think
it's necessary.

Regards,
Walter Stanish
Payward, Inc.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-15  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-12 23:16 [Bitcoin-development] [BIP 15] Aliases Zell Faze
2011-12-12 23:37 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-12 23:41   ` Luke-Jr
     [not found]     ` <CAGQP0AGBKKEqhaJZj-Rw400AjrVHE9_EMve=RWdqoaOaDsTgtw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-13  0:00       ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Jorge Timón
2011-12-13  0:42         ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13  2:32           ` Daniel F
2011-12-13  2:37             ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13  2:43               ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-13  2:52               ` Daniel F
2011-12-13 10:55           ` Mike Hearn
2011-12-13 11:42             ` Christian Decker
2011-12-13 12:32               ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 13:06                 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-13 15:46                   ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13 16:22                     ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-14 19:22                       ` D.H.
2011-12-14 20:07                         ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-14 20:17                           ` D.H.
2011-12-14 20:21                           ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2011-12-14 22:51                             ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-14 23:02                               ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-14 23:27                                 ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-15  1:22                                   ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-15  3:57                                     ` Zell Faze
2011-12-15  4:56                                       ` Kyle Henderson
2011-12-15  6:04                                         ` Zell Faze
2011-12-15  6:41                                           ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-15  7:45                                             ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-15  7:52                                               ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15  7:48                                             ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15  8:26                                               ` Walter Stanish [this message]
2011-12-15 10:01                                                 ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-15 11:08                                                 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15 11:22                                                   ` Christian Decker
2011-12-16  5:42                                                   ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-16  8:46                                                 ` Pieter Wuille
2011-12-15 15:44                                               ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-15 15:42                                           ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16  0:07                       ` slush
2011-12-16 15:52                         ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 16:36                           ` slush
2011-12-16 17:10                           ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 17:41                             ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 18:29                               ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-16 19:06                                 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-16 19:22                                   ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 20:58                                   ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 20:54                               ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 21:50                                 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-13 15:47                   ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-16 17:36                   ` Khalahan
2011-12-16 17:48                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-12-13 15:55               ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-13 16:15                 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 16:48                 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-14  2:30                   ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-13  2:39     ` [Bitcoin-development] " Stefan Thomas
2011-12-12 23:52   ` Matt Corallo
2011-12-12 23:37 ` Will
     [not found] <9109000381434268897@unknownmsgid>
2011-12-13  8:55 ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Cameron Garnham

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