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While Segwit's change from 1 mb size limit to 4 mb weight limit seems to be controversial among some users [..] I don't think it's very interesting to discuss further size increases.
I think the reason for this is largely because SegWit as a blocksize increase isn't very satisfying. It resolves to a one-time increase with no future plans, thus engendering the same objections as people who demand we just "raise the number to N." People can argue about what N should be, but when N is just a flat number, we know we'll have to deal with the issue again.
In that light I think it is even more essential to continue to discuss the blocksize debate and problem.
> I find more interesting to talk to the users and see how they think Segwit harms them,
From an inordinant amount of time spent reading Reddit, I believe this largely comes down to the rumor that has a deathgrip on the BU community - That Core are all just extensions of Blockstream, and blockstream wants to restrict growth on-chain to force growth of their 2nd layer services(lightning and/or sidechains).
I believe the tone of the discussion needs to be changed, and have been trying to work to change that tone for weeks now. There's one faction that believes that Bitcoin will rarely, if ever, benefit from a blocksize increase, and fees rising is a desired/unavoidable result. There's a different faction that believes Bitcoin limits are arbitrary and that all people worldwide should be able to put any size transactions, even microtransactions, on-chain. Both factions are extreme in their viewpoints and resort to conspiracy theories to interpret the actions of Core(blockstream did it) or BU(Jihan controls everything and anyone who says overwise is a shill paid by Roger Ver!)
It is all very unhealthy for Bitcoin. Both sides need to accept that microtransactions from all humans cannot go on-chain, and that never increasing the blocksize doesn't mean millions of home users will run nodes. The node argument breaks down economically and the microtransaction argument is an impossible mountain for a blockchain to climb.