From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECDE2BD5 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 19:21:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C3C7229 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 19:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iebre2 with SMTP id re2so1666725ieb.0 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 12:21:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2mBMCOhu5GInBN3EvuwKcaoad3+pgmKXQ8cXatJg7fU=; b=SsiAKeHI9BidPu3vy8Dtk86HWT9pRADz1f0hZSbj6s0Ocl8bezuQ1bovkRZq9ukx1t 4mK9VfyUVOBT9xX1Ua0160/BB3GoBL3DRPsBuv02EDw/alCRQyqQedeVj/C0o90Wao3i p9EfmudoMh1c47U/aOaYbnJ3xEnX2elOWSrzgvBGHu3pi2mBvAi1GOBmeKLJjZ4RmJpJ NI5TxidjwtCh2FqZAGlUaxQLLrU09/wlUogjYcX5+fusVEccwNyDkK/7ZGkDfQE6i0Yx hTMEha/DtaQ2an3i9wK7kiLl+mQdNwZ6jfeK5IVSwZPONATyDX6e8KGNL0rZY1hc8bje vSyQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.138.20 with SMTP id m20mr9953489iod.40.1436296910941; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.44.69 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 15:21:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: Cpunks List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin philosophical musings and pressures 7 years in [drifted from: txrate, forking, etc] X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:21:52 -0000 > Then again maybe I am missing the key reasoning for this fork. People often miss the fundamental reasons Bitcoin exists, the various conjoined ethos behind its creation. This is to be expected, it's so far ouside any thinking or life process they've ever had to do or been exposed to. It's also partly why figuring out what to do or code or adopt, is hard. And certainly not made any easier by the long term need and the current value at stake. Creating a system in which a Botswanan can give a few bits of their impoverished wages to their friend in Mumbai without it being gated, permitted, hierarchied, middlemanned, taxed, tracked, stolen and feed-upon until pointless... this simply doesn't compute for these people. Their school of thought is centralization, profit, control and oppression. So of course they see txrate ramming up against an artificial wall as perfectly fine, it enables and perpetuates their legacy ways. Regardless of whichever technical way the various walls are torn down, what's important is that they are. And that those who are thinking outside the box do, and continue to, take time to school these legacy people such that they might someday become enlightened and join the ethos. Otherwise might as well work for ICBC, JPMC, HSBC, BNP, MUFG and your favorite government. Probably not as much fun though.