From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FF487AA for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:09:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-yk0-f173.google.com (mail-yk0-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFF02161 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ykll84 with SMTP id l84so64162785ykl.0 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 02:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=PKDaam2EoMaDOOVxjZqrGuOYji+jM2izm2Igmr76sb8=; b=xlMwiiSCAsF+A3hzqVm47H+CzIbcvXdHYYV+5JYi4rL4TM0KAuYcpEpIKEaOoX4cSe GqSTbYvwYzAw1kApiPTjpqEgcVHlnHHoDviAenI2u6qs3Wzbbk3E8vpC88Qwo8TmHWCP vktPicc3dyxkBQS5DJ1M0hSjqMRSs9TnhF1dUOQtaCfRymbZc/yBueDugGpJYTP83LCm lW812mdrwIcGOckpyHssqTijnQ7OKA2vRfNzI1rUC6LOEP1tCCOMgodchu/ZT/MU4m8R HGQhBeTk2NcwqoUb9QOq+l4TRLCeUl0vr/laZG1OSRVHzsYlco9cVHv7tQwPfjYmT1DP OfNQ== X-Received: by 10.129.101.7 with SMTP id z7mr9219040ywb.81.1440148166160; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 02:09:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.94.132 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 02:09:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Btc Drak Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:09:06 +0100 Message-ID: To: Nicolas Dorier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM, HK_RANDOM_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:09:27 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Decision making is not the goal of this site, it is only a way to see > various pros and cons of various devs on various proposals in a single > place. > This is for the community to have a coherent view about what you are talking > about now spread into reddit/mailing/forums. > > If you did not analyzed a proposal yet, you don't have to fill out your > opinion veto or approval. > It is only to show what you would you "approve" and what you would "veto", > after your analysis. > Then point out all the discussions in the opinion section that lead you to > your conclusion. > > You can change edit your position as you progress into your analysis and as > new BIP get redacted. > I'm eager to include the new proposals. The most important part that developers should complete is the "Technical Opinion" column section where they can explain their general worldview, what their concerns are, how those concerns would be alleviated. If one is undecided or does not have enough information regarding each BIP then dont fill it out. That also helps signal the level of consensus for a proposal. As it stands at the moment, it's almost impossible to direct someone at the opinion of a specific developer other than hunting down a few gems scattered to the four corners of the universe. I tried recently and it was simply impossible. At least with this system, specific BIPs aside, we can easily see the view of each developer. I think most of us can comment on BIP101 since the BIP appears non-negotiable. The XT faction are easily winning the media war by obscuring rational debate by high signal to noise ratio. Nicolas' solution means the most important views expressed by each heavyweight will not get lost and serve as a good reference point for everyone, including the media. The site could be extended to include major stakeholders too like major service providers (think exchanges, wallet providers etc) and mining pools.