On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org> wrote:

please not google groups *, I'd vote for sourceforge or other simple
open list software over google groups.

* Google lists are somehow a little proprietary or gmail lockin
focused eg it makes things extra hard to subscribe with a non-google
address if google has any hint that your address is associated with a
gmail account.  Quite frustrating.