From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBCCF279 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 06:51:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-yw0-f171.google.com (mail-yw0-f171.google.com [209.85.161.171]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FC3C10A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 06:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f171.google.com with SMTP id v81so300800674ywb.2 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:51:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=WrlqX7K+i/ol6hGw4j6ENXXuPrRCa1CCYOdf2WYYZMw=; b=joYemsFcToUrNgkvcru5W+2gXJUWwSBWqF2moDCa2jSmYhs3BcBijy/pzpoF/Q5E4B u7oY0tZ4RfMCxZ4SnSxCZMh5qis7b2Tcwi3Omr+zwjiXrhh0RpGtfYACqVJffc9V+FPR FPjaYhHEmT1R864pve5zi+5heE18pBxTx4PwBh2Vc+4bTcYsgjL3i94FERGY9xFr5PR8 4eBG4UGXIPjqRwBmanwh7YS4jl08OucqnUPwn9jn3b+17VfiCnAaqRkum+YHy/QDbQcG DFOscaXfVIzp9zWN1NNRLAivB+SHHUR2m3ZM4i6QthNjvI0GPgatBkj90KyQtO5U4tGp 7dTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=WrlqX7K+i/ol6hGw4j6ENXXuPrRCa1CCYOdf2WYYZMw=; b=YHrm564Znv9i++CTz3ondyWOZoxCaIPEy4JLOIcLuL37A9JDn+rVd4y/q9mW++9pJt pvKO6F67Zs0zoUpBVqokQPk/DUaXt4LlZiplqTxpubYg++V4vmECRFJWNJqq/hFa/cx+ kZ9i31D4DUFePJH+vLQulx7rDKHXFPdJAEAhvgHK1L8SbtGWl86ztyQRC/JBAxFqJDjh wkrx92bWHNLyot10aoy7w+a+jYThRC4+0qVHg/TlLpxjkOoOqV/1Lsn7EmGe2eXTHAgX NokKRHZCK7G46ZUGvjzn3OVumwRfuu7cldVvKKH+Vb3vb0nDlgMNrFP1gDaTZPoa/g2C d6Tw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIOtYhBKxbdR6vyA7FqdvhEzzaTfSHX70QwaoXizFm1jlrHlfquk7mbEi4znWSlN9R6mPQ3Blyr8zD2ag== X-Received: by 10.129.169.132 with SMTP id g126mr82466704ywh.92.1483858272357; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:51:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.161.70 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jan 2017 22:50:52 -0800 (PST) From: Btc Drak Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 06:50:52 +0000 Message-ID: To: Bitcoin Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:55:32 +0000 Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Announcements on bitcoin-dev X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:51:13 -0000 The purpose of this list is Bitcoin protocol discussion of all kinds, including consensus rules that require hard and soft forks and there have been many discussions about both. There is also a clear technical process for proposing, discussing and peer reviewing consensus rule changes via the BIPs process which this list has traditionally played a large role. BIP specifications allow community wide coordination across multiple implementations. Since the recent thread announcing a new version of Bitcoin Classic, many people have complained on and off-list that is should not be allowed on the bitcoin-dev mailing list because it is not consensus compatible nor is it a change which has been arrived at through wide community consensus. There isn't even a formal specification that other implementations could follow if they wanted to. The general feeling seems to be that announcements for consensus compatible implementations is ok on this list. If there is ever community wide consensus for a hard fork, then that too would be ok since there would be consensus. This list does strive to be somewhat high signal to noise ratio where possible and we need to be clear about the list remit. So let's be clear, announcing/advertising software that is consensus incompatible is off-topic, however, discussion of hard forks, peer review etc has always been, and remains, on topic. I've copied the current list remit below for completeness. General discussions should be directed at bitcoin-discuss, where as actual protocol development discussion belongs on bitcoin-dev. Bitcoin development and protocol discussion. This list is lightly moderated. - No offensive posts, no personal attacks. - Posts must concern development of bitcoin protocol. - Posts should be technical or academic in nature. - Generally encouraged: patches, notification of pull requests, BIP proposals, academic paper announcements. And discussions that follow. - Generally discouraged: shower thoughts, wild speculation, jokes, +1s, non-technical bitcoin issues, rehashing settled topics without new data, moderation concerns. - Detailed patch discussion generally better on a GitHub PR. - Meta-discussion is better on bitcoin-discuss (https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-discuss) Thanks