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From: Btc Drak <btcdrak@gmail.com>
To: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Increase block size limit to 2 megabytes
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 23:04:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADJgMztVG0WSZ5mgG87eZGCGqvS1BjK9uKSXaaFmdTyHxD-v0g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABsx9T1Bd0-aQg-9uRa4u3dGA5fKxaj8-mEkxVzX8mhdj4Gt2g@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> This has been reviewed by merchants, miners and exchanges for a couple of
> weeks, and has been implemented and tested as part of the Bitcoin Classic
> and Bitcoin XT implementations.
>
> Constructive feedback welcome; argument about whether or not it is a good
> idea to roll out a hard fork now will be unproductive, so I vote we don't
> go there.
>
> Draft BIP:
>   https://github.com/gavinandresen/bips/blob/bump2mb/bip-bump2mb.mediawiki
>
> Summary:
>   Increase block size limit to 2,000,000 bytes.
>   After 75% hashpower support then 28-day grace period.
>   With accurate sigop counting, but existing sigop limit (20,000)
>   And a new, high limit on signature hashing
>
> Blog post walking through the code:
>   http://gavinandresen.ninja/a-guided-tour-of-the-2mb-fork
>
> Blog post on a couple of the constants chosen:
>   http://gavinandresen.ninja/seventyfive-twentyeight
>

It's great to finally see a BIP, although seems strange to ask for feedback
after releasing binaries.

In any case, the issue isn't about "whether or not it is a good idea to
roll out a hard fork", the question has always been about how to do safe
hard fork deployment and what the technological requirements are for doing
so. Your BIP/blogs do not actually address any of this. 75% miner
signalling with a 28 day flag day thereafter gives virtually no time for
the entire ecosystem to migrate and is widely considered unsafe. It's
plainly obvious that an entire ecosystem of 5000 full nodes cannot be
prepared in a month.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-05 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-05 20:51 [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Increase block size limit to 2 megabytes Gavin Andresen
2016-02-05 22:36 ` Yifu Guo
2016-02-07 17:09   ` Gavin Andresen
2016-02-05 23:04 ` Btc Drak [this message]
2016-02-06  0:12 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-06  3:14   ` Jorge Timón
2016-02-06 15:37     ` Gavin Andresen
2016-02-06 17:01       ` Adam Back
2016-02-06 17:45         ` Gavin Andresen
2016-02-06 21:11           ` Peter Todd
2016-02-06 21:24             ` Peter Todd
2016-02-09  5:11             ` Samson Mow
2016-02-06 21:28           ` David Thomson
2016-02-07 18:49         ` Chris Priest
2016-02-06 17:09       ` Jorge Timón
2016-02-06 17:25         ` Tom Zander
2016-02-06 20:22           ` Chris Priest
2016-02-06 20:46           ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-07 14:16             ` Gavin Andresen
2016-02-07 15:06               ` Alex Morcos
2016-02-07 16:54                 ` Peter Todd
2016-02-07 15:19               ` Anthony Towns
2016-02-07 17:10                 ` Jonathan Toomim
2016-02-07 17:24                   ` jl2012
2016-02-07 17:56                     ` Jonathan Toomim
2016-02-07 21:01               ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-07 21:33                 ` Steven Pine
2016-02-07 22:04                   ` Corey Haddad
2016-02-07 22:25                     ` Steven Pine
2016-02-06 20:36       ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-06 22:22       ` Peter Todd
2016-02-07  5:21       ` Jannes Faber
2016-02-07 18:55         ` Jonathan Toomim
2016-02-07 19:03           ` Patrick Strateman
2016-02-07 19:19             ` Trevin Hofmann
2016-02-07 20:29             ` Tier Nolan
2016-02-09 13:59       ` Yifu Guo
2016-02-09 16:54         ` Gavin Andresen
2016-02-10  6:14           ` David Vorick
2016-02-10  6:36             ` Patrick Shirkey
2016-02-10 12:58             ` Tier Nolan
2016-02-07 11:37 ` Anthony Towns

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