From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2869683D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:32:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8EAE11D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iods203 with SMTP id s203so17398940iod.0 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=A2doJjMVESnVi3+wBUcgSLLAklwUHBgHq6RdlUi42S8=; b=r95Bx85Zue4kjTET3BUCK2w9NSbgvNAYCD1REzsDhuQbDdhhUPYRIJYwqUo1wkAzhQ 1XHXEuzbueykO50EHQm4KuhRm9zDN1013h7ipesma+oKFyHQ3PMlL3HmrMs0jVkGeih9 5nOwjoEw8oKS0gnWPXnC6uZe5/KwoC1FWGkO7STVnW5Md/9NzkG4KxthhHYnFlv63vpW ji2d0petwb9GG4mTf1ZDPlJ9eANXUQyXHEijfLZEgdBUK2A940NJkJ0nTIb1a5UrDswy 2WA9HKWL/B/2MN7OH+Zjxkbn5dPhl5zDjkCsel43CaEX99+OegzEVGE8ZdTRdaSQRHke sd6Q== X-Received: by 10.107.148.8 with SMTP id w8mr16848072iod.116.1440005554203; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:32:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.81.199 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:32:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Btc Drak Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:32:14 +0100 Message-ID: To: Adam Back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM, HK_RANDOM_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:32:35 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Adam Back via bitcoin-dev wrote: > ignored the warnings. Many also warned that 75% was an optimally BAD > trigger ratio (and that in a hard fork it is not a miner vote really > as in soft-forks). Gavin & Mike ignored that warning to. I know they > heard those warnings because I told them 1:1 in person or via email > and had on going conversations. Others did too. I would like to add for the record, I also warned Gavin of this in his PR to Bitcoin Core, and also suggested a timeout which if activation/enforcement did not occur within, hard fork deployment would be cancelled. His response was to delete these from the PR claiming thresholds were not relevant conversation in his PR and belonged elsewhere (even though they had already been discussed elsewhere).