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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com>
To: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Segregated Witness in the context of Scaling Bitcoin
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 21:58:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADm_WcYhPqZZ5KQ7DxyFgkk5td4ircrXwArg_guWDPWPtnCxhw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FC95D096-74AE-4B1C-B11B-1CB718538E7D@gmail.com>

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> wrote:

> At least SW *is* a scaling solution (albeit most of the important benefits
> are long term). The issue of fee events has nothing to do with scaling - it
> has to do with economics...specifically whether we should be subsidizing
> transactions, who should pay the bill for it, etc. My own personal opinion
> is that increasing validation costs works against adoption, not for
> it...even if it artificially keeps fees low - and we'll have to deal with a
> fee event sooner or later anyhow. You may disagree with my opinion, but
> please, let's stop confounding the economic issues with actual scaling.
>

At least on my part, the title of the 1st email was "It's economics & ..."
and focused on (a) economics and (b) transition issues.  There was no
confounding.  There was a list of real problems and risks taken when 1M is
not lifted in the short term.

Thus "SW is orthogonal" in these emails, because these problems remain
regardless of SW or no, as the 1st email outlined.

The 2nd email addresses the specific assertion of "no 1M hard fork needed,
because SW."

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-17  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 20:38 [bitcoin-dev] Segregated Witness in the context of Scaling Bitcoin Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 20:50 ` Matt Corallo
2015-12-16 21:51   ` Jameson Lopp
2015-12-16 22:29     ` Matt Corallo
2015-12-16 22:32     ` Matt Corallo
2015-12-17  2:21   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-17  2:44     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-12-17  2:58       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2015-12-17  3:48         ` Adam Back
2015-12-17  5:32   ` jl2012
2015-12-17  7:54     ` Corey Haddad
2015-12-17 13:09       ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-17 15:51         ` sickpig
2015-12-17 17:55           ` Anthony Towns
2015-12-18 10:01             ` sickpig
2015-12-19  7:50               ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-12-19 23:03                 ` Dave Scotese
2015-12-17  9:33     ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-12-17 10:00       ` jl2012
2015-12-17 10:57     ` Anthony Towns
2015-12-17  6:14   ` Marcel Jamin
2015-12-16 20:59 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-16 21:27   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 21:36     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-16 22:09       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 22:10         ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-17 18:27         ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-17 18:46           ` jl2012
2015-12-17 18:52             ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-17 21:18               ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-12-17 21:31               ` Adam Back
2015-12-17  3:52       ` Anthony Towns

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